Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 03:43:17 -0800, Paul Winkler wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:42:14PM +, Mike Rawes wrote: A text interface with tab completion (especially when there's a lot of plugins in the network) would be a nice feature. just to put in my 2 cents... I think a relatively

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Mario Lang
Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:31:07 +0100, Mario Lang wrote: Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I think Matthias Nagorni said it was a long term goal for ALSA Modular Synth, but the gui stuff just isn't there yet. A project where the GUI

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread ian
This is something I have done a fair bit of work on myself. I have an almost complete working engine, which allows polyphonic, multitimbral operation, and has a mixer with a channel per part, inserts and as many output buses as you want. No GUI code as yet (except for some old code in a pervious

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Phil Kerr
Hi, I've nearly finished an updated DMIDI client which allows AMS, and any ALSA 0.9 app, to be controlled remotely on a LAN. The 0.2 version just dumps received data to /dev/midi. I've one bug which need to be fixed and some slight refactoring of the output side before it can be released but it

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Dave Griffiths
Mario, Could you give some descriptions of a text based interface you would like to use for realtime control of a modular synth? The building of patches seems fairly easy (via a CLI), but I'm thinking you'd want a more direct control for actually playing the thing - mapping the parameters to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 03:16:37PM +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: Mario, Could you give some descriptions of a text based interface you would like to use for realtime control of a modular synth? The building of patches seems fairly easy (via a CLI), but I'm thinking you'd want a more direct

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Mario Lang
Dave Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, Could you give some descriptions of a text based interface you would like to use for realtime control of a modular synth? The building of patches seems fairly easy (via a CLI), but I'm thinking you'd want a more direct control for actually

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Dave Griffiths
Dave Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, Could you give some descriptions of a text based interface you would like to use for realtime control of a modular synth? The building of patches seems fairly easy (via a CLI), but I'm thinking you'd want a more direct control for

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Bill Allen
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Mario Lang wrote: The *.ams files looks textual to me, anyone experienced enough with AMS able to comment on if it is remotely thinkable to turn it into a alternatively-controllable-app? Like a simple socket interface to change controls? I've used AMS quite a lot - I

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Bill Allen
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Dave Griffiths wrote: Dave Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, Could you give some descriptions of a text based interface you would like to use for realtime control of a modular synth? The building of patches seems fairly easy (via a CLI), but I'm

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Mario Lang
Bill Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Mario Lang wrote: The *.ams files looks textual to me, anyone experienced enough with AMS able to comment on if it is remotely thinkable to turn it into a alternatively-controllable-app? Like a simple socket interface to change

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-06 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 01:49:22 -0500, Bill Allen wrote: On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Mario Lang wrote: The *.ams files looks textual to me, anyone experienced enough with AMS able to comment on if it is remotely thinkable to turn it into a alternatively-controllable-app? Like a simple

[linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Mario Lang
Hello. I'm a blind Linux user since 1997, and I'm also interested in doing music on Linux. Since I'm the synth-type-of-guy, I'd really love to be able to play with software based synths, a little bit of step seuqencing, and some sample based stuff. Controlling my SuperNova DrumMachine via MIDI

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Lance Blisters
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:39:41PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote: I'm a blind Linux user since 1997, and I'm also interested in doing music on Linux. Since I'm the synth-type-of-guy, I'd really love to be able to play with software based synths, a little bit of step seuqencing, and some sample

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Matt Gerassimoff
What about csound? This is a command line and text based program for handling synth stuff. Check out http://www.csounds.com Matt On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Mario Lang wrote: Hello. I'm a blind Linux user since 1997, and I'm also interested in doing music on Linux. Since I'm the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Paul Davis
Some Sequencer which is capable of MIDI out and in SoftWerk has 100% separation between the core engine and the GUI. its a pattern sequencer, not a timeline sequencer. It does MIDI in and out. --p

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Matt Gerassimoff
You could also try keykit which has both a GUI and non-GUI interface. It's at http://www.nosuch.com/keykit Matt On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Mario Lang wrote: Hello. I'm a blind Linux user since 1997, and I'm also interested in doing music on Linux. Since I'm the synth-type-of-guy, I'd really

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:06:47 +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: Another possibility that might make more sense (something else I've been thinking about) is a LADSPA only modular synth - as LADSPA plugins are much less bound to a GUI than ssm's the interface could be much more textual. Several

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Paul Winkler
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:46:12AM -0600, Matt Gerassimoff wrote: What about csound? This is a command line and text based program for handling synth stuff. Check out http://www.csounds.com or SAOL, which you can use on linux thanks to sfront. sort of like new improved csound.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Mike Rawes
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:47:36 + Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:06:47 +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: Another possibility that might make more sense (something else I've been thinking about) is a LADSPA only modular synth - as LADSPA plugins are much less

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Mario Lang
Benno Senoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We at the LinuxSampler project, http://linuxsampler.sourceforge.net will go the GUIless route too and as Juan L. suggested it is probably wise to use a TCP socket because it allows remote controllability which can sometimes be very helpful. This is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Mario Lang
Lance Blisters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:39:41PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote: I'm a blind Linux user since 1997, and I'm also interested in doing music on Linux. Since I'm the synth-type-of-guy, I'd really love to be able to play with software based synths, a little

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Mario Lang
Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:46:12AM -0600, Matt Gerassimoff wrote: What about csound? This is a command line and text based program for handling synth stuff. Check out http://www.csounds.com or SAOL, which you can use on linux thanks to sfront.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Mario Lang
Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I think Matthias Nagorni said it was a long term goal for ALSA Modular Synth, but the gui stuff just isn't there yet. A project where the GUI isn't there yet? Oh, I love it already. What is it? :) -- CYa, Mario

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Paul Winkler
oops, omde is at http://sf.net/projects/pythonsound --PW -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:29:13AM +0100, Mario Lang wrote: What about csound? This is a command line and text based program for handling synth stuff. Check out http://www.csounds.com or SAOL, which you can use on linux thanks to sfront. sort of like new improved csound.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Kai Vehmanen
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Mike Rawes wrote: plugins in the network) would be a nice feature. Another idea which I've seen discussed is the creation of 'meta' plugins - subnetworks 'wrapped' into a single plugin. Combined with cut,copy,paste, you could create a nice patch, and then decide 'I want

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Dave Griffiths
I agree with your stance about merging GUI and engine code: it is a mess and often introduces many maintenance and performance problems. As someone who has just spent the best part of three months rewriting code - ohh I learnt the hard way ;) dave

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GUIless friendly applications

2002-11-05 Thread Josh Green
iiwusynth (http://www.iiwu.org/iiwusynth/) is a command line driven soft synth based on SoundFont instrument patch files. My program Swami (http://swami.sourceforge.net) is a patch file editor (currently just SoundFont files) that has an architecture that is completely separated from the GUI. It