Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-19 Thread Steve Harris
On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 11:31:32 +0200, Torben Hohn wrote: > Well i consider the big parsers the bloat... > XML is a great idea. But they are dynamicaly linked, and so many things link against libxml anyway... > So you say i can implement support for the default hints ??? Yes, I allready promi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-19 Thread Torben Hohn
--- Torben Hohn --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Steve Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF > On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 05:11:06

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-19 Thread Steve Harris
On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 05:11:06 +0200, Torben Hohn wrote: > Please leave the default hints in the native-API. I only want an instatiated > plugin to produce sound. > Which is generally not the case when my defaults are 0 :-( No, well thats what were trying to fix. it is definatly a problem. > I

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-19 Thread Steve Harris
On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 11:56:02 +1000, Conrad Parker wrote: > sure, this would only be for author-defined defaults, which would > assumedly be minimal and available through getDefault(), and thus > implicitly available on any architecture the plugin is available on. Well, I'm currently planning

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-18 Thread Conrad Parker
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 12:37:00PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 10:28:10 +1000, Conrad Parker wrote: > > My concerns are: > > * bloat -- requiring all LADSPA hosts to link against libxml and > ... > > * licensing -- requiring all LADSPA hosts to link to GPL code >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-18 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 05:11:06AM +0200, Torben Hohn wrote: >BTW: >I consider XML to be bloat. At least it is portable bloat ;) No, seriously, xml has advantages over plain ascii, when you consider xslt, rdf, ... etc etc regards vini

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-18 Thread Torben Hohn
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:49:05 +0200, Richard Guenther wrote: > > Hi Steve! > > > > I really like it! Also it opens up a lot of other possibilities in the > > future like GUI hints, etc. > > Yes, it should also provide a tree of plugin categories, but I haven't > defined that yet. > > So, t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-18 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 08:26:53 +0200, Richard Guenther wrote: > Thought the other comment was against dropping "native" defaults support > with ladspa v1.1, not against RDF in general. As you noted RDF will be > useful for stuff v1.1 does not handle, such as > - presets > - categories > - exchan

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-17 Thread Richard Guenther
On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Steve Harris wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:49:05 +0200, Richard Guenther wrote: > > Hi Steve! > > > > I really like it! Also it opens up a lot of other possibilities in the > > future like GUI hints, etc. > > Yes, it should also provide a tree of plugin categories, bu

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-17 Thread Stefan Kost
Steve Harris wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:49:05 +0200, Richard Guenther wrote: > >>Hi Steve! >> >>I really like it! Also it opens up a lot of other possibilities in the >>future like GUI hints, etc. > > > Yes, it should also provide a tree of plugin categories, but I haven't > defined th

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-17 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:49:05 +0200, Richard Guenther wrote: > Hi Steve! > > I really like it! Also it opens up a lot of other possibilities in the > future like GUI hints, etc. Yes, it should also provide a tree of plugin categories, but I haven't defined that yet. So, that seems to be one

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-17 Thread Richard Guenther
Hi Steve! I really like it! Also it opens up a lot of other possibilities in the future like GUI hints, etc. Richard. On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 06:44:59PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > OK, I now have a minimal proof of concept for describing LADSPA plugins, > presets and defaults with RDF (http://

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-17 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 10:28:10 +1000, Conrad Parker wrote: > For plugin (author-defined) defaults, I really can't see how any use of > RDF/XML can be a good thing -- we really should be moving towards defining > a getDefault() method in the API, and even dynamic parameter suggestions. N.B. that

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-16 Thread Conrad Parker
Hi Steve, all, For plugin (author-defined) defaults, I really can't see how any use of RDF/XML can be a good thing -- we really should be moving towards defining a getDefault() method in the API, and even dynamic parameter suggestions. My concerns are: * bloat -- requiring all LADSPA hos

[linux-audio-dev] LADSPA Defaults via RDF

2002-07-16 Thread Steve Harris
OK, I now have a minimal proof of concept for describing LADSPA plugins, presets and defaults with RDF (http://w3c.org/RDF). At this point I'd like to get some feedback so I can decide wether to cut my losses or finish it (a usable library for hosts would be about another weeks work, on and off).