[linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-12 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Taybin wrote: >This is what you want. This is from december. It just needs >someone to implement it: >"Thats why getting alsa-server to participate in JACK would be great: >this would allow all regular ALSA apps to use JACK without its >sample-sync features. The other way around doesn't wor

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Juan Linietsky
Great! of all people I think you understood what my point was with this proposal. I really have to work on improving my engish grammar. > > 3-You may also want to put just any program that uses native > > OSS/ALSA through this. Imagine running xmms and wanting to put the > > sound thru a better

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Kai Vehmanen
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Juan Linietsky wrote: > Here's a problem I commonly find in existing audio apps or in > programming audio apps: Audio routing. Over a year ago (Sat May 05 2001) I wrote the following message: http://www.eca.cx/lad/2001/May/0071.html ... pretty close isn't it? The next step

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 09:30:36AM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: (cut) >Read the archives. We've been through this before. I'm not going >through it again. (cut) ACK ! Every once in a while people bring up the same questions people in this list thought long and hard about and solved. Before you st

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Paul Davis
>> Mostly because to do it correctly he argued that it has to be based >> on a callback design and that is not part of the alsa-lib. Hence >> JACK. >> > >Sorry, obligatory question, what's wrong with blocking calls? :) Read the archives. We've been through this before. I'm not going through it a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Paul Davis
>1-It's not a standard. ALSA/OSS are. If i want to write a driver, i >will do for those. JACK has nothing to do with device drivers. Its a layer that hides even the existence of physical audio interfaces from applications. Right now, there is a dynamically loaded client/clock client that uses ALS

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Taybin Rutkin
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Juan Linietsky wrote: > 1-It's not a standard. ALSA/OSS are. If i want to write a driver, i > will do for those. In the open-source world, standards are defined by consensus. How do you think gtk+ became a standard? People started using it. ALSA isn't in POSIX either. >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Richard Bown
Juan Linietsky wrote: > No, allow me to explain better why I think supporting JACK is > pointless and why I wouldnt do it. I'll give you all the reasons I can > think of. [a bunch of pretty useless reasons] > For these reasons, I will not support or use JACK until something like > it becomes pa

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Martijn Sipkema
> No, allow me to explain better why I think supporting JACK is > pointless and why I wouldnt do it. I'll give you all the reasons I can > think of. > > 1-It's not a standard. ALSA/OSS are. If i want to write a driver, i > will do for those. define standard. > 3-Device sharing is pointless for

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Juan Linietsky
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:52:10 +0100 Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Juan Linietsky wrote: > > [developers choosing JACK over ALSA audio] > > > Not to be pessimistic, but I think such thing is not going to > > happen. Also I find the whole idea redundant. If JACK is easier > > and faste

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Richard Bown
Juan Linietsky wrote: [developers choosing JACK over ALSA audio] > Not to be pessimistic, but I think such thing is not going to happen. > Also I find the whole idea redundant. If JACK is easier and faster to > integrate then it should replace the ALSA api on that matter. > Developers, and speci

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Audio routing issues for linux..

2002-06-10 Thread Juan Linietsky
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:37:42 +0900 Patrick Shirkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Juan Linietsky wrote: > > > Probably the easier and more natural approach to this is just > > integrating JACK to ALSA in some way. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Your idea has been discussed in length by Abra