[linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-16 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
Hello. Please take a look at figure at: http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/examples/directed/datastruct.html That looks something which Patchbay could look like. Note the rounded cables. Of course, please don't take that look literally. Look also at http://chat.carleton.ca/~drobilla

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-13 Thread Dave Robillard
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 11:20, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > Hello. > > I was reading Ableton Live tutorials at "www.creativesynth.com" and > found the following: > > One important point about Rewire hosting - that is shutdown order. > If you try to shut down Live while Reason is running, you will

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-13 Thread Paul Davis
>If I remove a synth application in Jack, then what happens to the effect >applications in the path? Does they receive silent input or break up? >The silent input would be better because then I could switch the >synth application with a need to remake the whole system. silent input, of course.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-13 Thread Steve Harris
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 06:20:48 +0200, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > If I remove a synth application in Jack, then what happens to the effect > applications in the path? Does they receive silent input or break up? > The silent input would be better because then I could switch the > synth application w

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-13 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
Hello. I was reading Ableton Live tutorials at "www.creativesynth.com" and found the following: One important point about Rewire hosting - that is shutdown order. If you try to shut down Live while Reason is running, you will get a warning that looks something like this: [ the program c

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-09 Thread torbenh
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 01:47:39PM -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 09:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Enlighten me to a polyphonic LADSPA host with a modular GUI (and control > > > ports work) and you'll be my new best friend. :) > > > > galan-0.3.0-beta3 its here finally :

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-08 Thread Dave Robillard
On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 09:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Enlighten me to a polyphonic LADSPA host with a modular GUI (and control > > ports work) and you'll be my new best friend. :) > > galan-0.3.0-beta3 its here finally :) > you will need some time to get into it. > but if you have questions i

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-08 Thread torbenh
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 12:56:18PM -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 07:33, Steve Harris wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 08:16:34 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > > > Now on the other hand, the idea of a nice simple little modular LADSPA > > > host (usable as both a synth and/or

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Joern Nettingsmeier
Dave Robillard wrote: On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 19:19, vanDongen/Gilcher wrote: My preference : The line doesn't need to be thick. Clicking it selects it (and shows it by changing the color, maybe making it thicker as well ), pressing delete removes it. I think clicking on a line is just far too

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Dave Robillard
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 18:31, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:08:31PM -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > > > > Just click on "Export control ports as module ports". > > > > Sure, but they don't actually work. At least not for me, from the AMS > > discussion on this list I thought

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread vanDongen/Gilcher
On Friday 06 February 2004 23:38, Dave Robillard wrote: > On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 19:19, vanDongen/Gilcher wrote: > > My preference : > > The line doesn't need to be thick. Clicking it selects it (and shows it > > by changing the color, maybe making it thicker as well ), pressing delete > > removes i

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:08:31PM -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > > Just click on "Export control ports as module ports". > > Sure, but they don't actually work. At least not for me, from the AMS > discussion on this list I thought it was a known limitation (since > everything in AMS is audio ra

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Dave Robillard
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 19:19, vanDongen/Gilcher wrote: > My preference : > The line doesn't need to be thick. Clicking it selects it (and shows it by > changing the color, maybe making it thicker as well ), pressing delete > removes it. I think clicking on a line is just far too difficult to bot

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread vanDongen/Gilcher
My preference : The line doesn't need to be thick. Clicking it selects it (and shows it by changing the color, maybe making it thicker as well ), pressing delete removes it. Handles of some sort to create segmented patch cords would be nice. As would the ability to rotate a client box over 90

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Dave Robillard
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 16:01, Steve Harris wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 01:05:11 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > > Actually.. better idea. Right now you have to actually click on the > > little port box to connect things, but you should be able to click the > > port label to select the port.. th

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Steve Harris
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 01:05:11 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > Actually.. better idea. Right now you have to actually click on the > little port box to connect things, but you should be able to click the > port label to select the port.. that's the entire width of the module. > Quite the brainde

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Dave Robillard
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 16:00, Steve Harris wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 12:56:18 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 07:33, Steve Harris wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 08:16:34 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > > > > Now on the other hand, the idea of a nice simple little m

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Steve Harris
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 12:56:18 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 07:33, Steve Harris wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 08:16:34 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > > > Now on the other hand, the idea of a nice simple little modular LADSPA > > > host (usable as both a synth and/or a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Dave Robillard
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 12:35, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > >- making the lines really thick, same deal as above > > Make the lines thick only if it is visually justified. > If you only want grab the cable, then make the grabbing distance > long enough. The same for the grabbing distances of the ports.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Dave Robillard
On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 07:33, Steve Harris wrote: > On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 08:16:34 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > > Now on the other hand, the idea of a nice simple little modular LADSPA > > host (usable as both a synth and/or an effects rack) is a good one > > indeed... > > Yeah, thats probably

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
>From: Dave Robillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >What's the best way to disconnect ports? I've thought of: > >- putting a handle in the middle of connection lines, so you can >right-click them to get a menu No no. >- making the lines really thick, same deal as above Make the lines thick only if it

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-06 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 08:16:34 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > Now on the other hand, the idea of a nice simple little modular LADSPA > host (usable as both a synth and/or an effects rack) is a good one > indeed... Yeah, thats probably why we have 5 allready ;) - Steve

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-05 Thread Dave Robillard
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 15:42, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > >From: Dave Robillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >This is what LADCCA is for really.. session management is well out of > >the domain of a patch bay, IMO > > So what is the purpose of Patchbay? > Users launch applications from a shell and then

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-05 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
>From: Dave Robillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >This is what LADCCA is for really.. session management is well out of >the domain of a patch bay, IMO So what is the purpose of Patchbay? Users launch applications from a shell and then uses Patchbay for connecting the applications? That would mean a l

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-05 Thread Dave Robillard
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 01:07, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > >From: Dave Robillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Screenshot: > >http://chat.carleton.ca/~drobilla/patchbay.png > [ ... ] > >Eventually it will be a combined jack/alsa patch bay > > How about adding an application menu from which user may > lau

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Modular Jack patch bay

2004-02-04 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
>From: Dave Robillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Screenshot: >http://chat.carleton.ca/~drobilla/patchbay.png [ ... ] >Eventually it will be a combined jack/alsa patch bay How about adding an application menu from which user may launch new applications and insert to the patchbay? Patchbay would store a