Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-23 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 06:11:12 -0700, John Lazzaro wrote: > OS license upgrade fees, etc) is easier to make. Certainly on the > CLI side, many people started out at Cygwin users to run emacs > and gcc and TeX under Windows, and then decided to add a dual-boot > option for Linux to get "the real t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-22 Thread John Lazzaro
> Lea Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > Wishing for people to write native apps for a system with no market is > like wishing Windows would die. It might happen, but it's not bloody > likely. However, if you port a novel Linux application to Windows or OS X, the users on those platforms are q

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-22 Thread Paul Davis
>Wishing for people to write native apps for a system with no market is >like wishing Windows would die. It might happen, but it's not bloody >likely. steinberg committed to neundo on beos when beos had even less market than linux does now (*). so did several other companies. one of them, iZ, even

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-22 Thread Sebastien Metrot
Paul Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view > >Hu, in fact it's the other way around: VST is a C ApI based of a very small

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-22 Thread Paul Davis
>Hu, in fact it's the other way around: VST is a C ApI based of a very small [ ... ] sebastien - thanks a lot for the clarification. you are right about VST being a C API in a fundamental sense, but i think it more than notable that there are no C plugins, only C++ ones. i was simply wrong abo

[linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-22 Thread Benno Senoner
If I remember correctly, the guy that wrote the VQF (an mp3-like codec) plugin for xmms (home page here:http://www.csn.ul.ie/~mel/projects/linux/vqfplugin/ ) used wine to run the windows version of the audio codec under linux. Reading form his page he has now switched to a native version of th

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-22 Thread Paul Davis
>> But there are not very many "pro >> audio" plugins under DirectX - lots of instruments and wierdo >> enthusiast FX, but not the sort of stuff that ProTools, Nuendo and >> Logic users are inclined towards. > >Waaahh!!! I would disagree. The Waves bundles are seriously good and >goes for thousand

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-22 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 01:36:48 +0200, Benno Senoner wrote: > Indeed the ability to run DX and VST on Linux would be a good selling > point for pro audio on linux but there is still lot to do in the fields > of basic audio platform infrastructure and integration of the different > components. I'

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-22 Thread Sebastien Metrot
lnd't be able to run word or winamp with wine without it). Just my 0.02 euros, Sebastien - Original Message - From: "Paul Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Ima

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Davis
>> I don't know if the 3 points I've made have already been done, I'm new >> to LAD, but they are important. Especially 3 as it gives a "migration >> path" to existing windoze users. I know, I know, DirectX plugins are >> written against Microsoft libraries, but how come mplayer on Linux can >> use

[linux-audio-dev] Re: The Image (usablity) problem from a Musicians point of view

2002-10-21 Thread Benno Senoner
> I don't know if the 3 points I've made have already been done, I'm new > to LAD, but they are important. Especially 3 as it gives a "migration > path" to existing windoze users. I know, I know, DirectX plugins are > written against Microsoft libraries, but how come mplayer on Linux can > use wind