Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-10 Thread torbenh
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 03:19:44PM +0100, Mike Rawes wrote: > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 07:02:30PM +0100, Mike Rawes wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:20:41 +0200 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > galan has: > > > > left click -> up down movement > > > > right

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-10 Thread Mike Rawes
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 07:02:30PM +0100, Mike Rawes wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:20:41 +0200 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > galan has: > > > left click -> up down movement > > > right click -> knob points to mouse > > > > > > middle click is still undefine

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-10 Thread torbenh
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 07:02:30PM +0100, Mike Rawes wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:20:41 +0200 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:21:25AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:06:16 -0500, Jan Depner wrote: > > > > This is exactly the point I

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 03:18:29PM -0400, Pete Bessman wrote: > At Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:50:40 -0500 CDT, > Ben wrote: > > > > The app "Soundplay" for BeOS takes a novel approach ... the level is > > shown as a knob but when you grab it, a rectangular box appears > > behind the knob and you adust it

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread Pete Bessman
At Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:50:40 -0500 CDT, Ben wrote: > > The app "Soundplay" for BeOS takes a novel approach ... the level is > shown as a knob but when you grab it, a rectangular box appears > behind the knob and you adust it like a fader. This is great > because it gives you visual feedback of whi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread Marek Peteraj
On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 20:33, Ben wrote: >  On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 15:15, Ben wrote: > > > Sounds interesting. This is what I do for a living. But would any > > > of > > > the linux audio developers actually follow it? > > > > You mean you're a usability engineer? > > > > Marek > > > > Er, y

[linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread Ben
 On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 15:15, Ben wrote: > > Sounds interesting. This is what I do for a living. But would any > > of > > the linux audio developers actually follow it? > > You mean you're a usability engineer? > > Marek > Er, yes. In addition to graphics designer, programmer, tech suppor

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread Mike Rawes
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:20:41 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:21:25AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:06:16 -0500, Jan Depner wrote: > > > This is exactly the point I was trying to get across. Do > > > something > > > different. I've been t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread Marek Peteraj
On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 15:15, Ben wrote: > Sounds interesting. This is what I do for a living. But would any of > the linux audio developers actually follow it? You mean you're a usability engineer? Marek > > -Ben Loftis > > > Maybe some kind of audio app interface design proposal is in orde

[linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread Ben
Sounds interesting. This is what I do for a living. But would any of the linux audio developers actually follow it? -Ben Loftis > Maybe some kind of audio app interface design proposal is in order: > linux audio interface design - basic application control keys: LAID > BACK > > Gerard >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread torbenh
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:21:25AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:06:16 -0500, Jan Depner wrote: > > This is exactly the point I was trying to get across. Do something > > different. I've been toying lately with the idea of zoomable sliders > > when you have too littl

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread Paul Davis
>On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:06:16 -0500, Jan Depner wrote: >> This is exactly the point I was trying to get across. Do something >> different. I've been toying lately with the idea of zoomable sliders >> when you have too little real estate or pop up sliders that are larger >> than their nor

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 05:06:16 -0500, Jan Depner wrote: > This is exactly the point I was trying to get across. Do something > different. I've been toying lately with the idea of zoomable sliders > when you have too little real estate or pop up sliders that are larger > than their normal

[linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-09 Thread vanDongen/Gilcher
IMHO this is much bigger problem in UI design. In ardour it is shift-click in JAMin it is right click, in Rosegarden it is double-click. That the sliders all look different is much less confusing than that the behaviour is all different. Maybe some kind of audio app interface design proposal is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-08 Thread Tim Hockin
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 04:50:40PM -0500, Ben wrote: > and Murphy's law says your first 2 guesses will be wrong. The app > "Soundplay" for BeOS takes a novel approach ... the level is shown as a > knob but when you grab it, a rectangular box appears behind the knob > and you adust it like a fad

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-08 Thread Jan Depner
On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 16:50, Ben wrote: > > Yes, it's definitely easier to see the position of a knob > > (usually). > > The parametric sliders in the JAMin HDEQ are a result of my not > > wanting > > to use knobs. I think there are probably other ways to replace them > > as > > well. > >

[linux-audio-dev] Re: UI stuff

2004-06-08 Thread Ben
> Yes, it's definitely easier to see the position of a knob > (usually). > The parametric sliders in the JAMin HDEQ are a result of my not > wanting > to use knobs. I think there are probably other ways to replace them > as > well. > > Jan As a rule of thumb, if the parameters are rela