Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-31 Thread n++k
[Benno Senoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] | | On Thursday 31 May 2001 23:22, you wrote: | > IMHO the lists don't need to be broken up. Sometimes this list is dead | > as a doornail. Like in March for instance. And now Murphys law has it | > that the speed of delivery of the last two weeks has dropped to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-31 Thread Frank Barknecht
Benno Senoner hat gesagt: // Benno Senoner wrote: > >From a developer POV, this separation has the advantage that developers > willing (or haiving the time) to help out newbies [...] ... or willing to see how users cope with their developments. bye, --

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-31 Thread Vincent Touquet
[cut] > Everyone will be happy and no one will complain (or at least almost no one) > that people is posting offtopic stuff. > Thoughts ? > Benno. I very much agree. I also think an extra newbie list would be too much ... I think newbies could learn a lot by subscribing to the user-list. The

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-31 Thread Benno Senoner
On Thursday 31 May 2001 23:22, you wrote: > IMHO the lists don't need to be broken up. Sometimes this list is dead > as a doornail. Like in March for instance. And now Murphys law has it > that the speed of delivery of the last two weeks has dropped to nothing > just as some people start talking a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
IMHO the lists don't need to be broken up. Sometimes this list is dead as a doornail. Like in March for instance. And now Murphys law has it that the speed of delivery of the last two weeks has dropped to nothing just as some people start talking about how busy it is around here. However that coul

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-28 Thread douglas irving repetto
Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > > >BTW, is there a digest available? This would make life easier for me at > >least. > > Yep, a possibility to get digested postings is very important -- well, > at least I have subscribed to a few less important (but useful) lists > because digest is less harmless than

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-28 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
>BTW, is there a digest available? This would make life easier for me at >least. Yep, a possibility to get digested postings is very important -- well, at least I have subscribed to a few less important (but useful) lists because digest is less harmless than the plain postings. We could move to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-27 Thread Dave Phillips
douglas irving repetto wrote: > okay, i'll just go ahead and set up [EMAIL PROTECTED] > if it takes off, that's great, if not it only cost me a few minutes of > my time. > > jorn, would you like to be the maintainer of LAU too? I'm pleased to see the response to this idea. Alas, I didn't consul

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
douglas irving repetto wrote: > > Paul Winkler wrote: > > > BTW, if someone (jorn & douglas?) gets this started, can we > > please have it archived somewhere from day 1? Might as well get > > it right from the beginning. > > okay, i'll just go ahead and set up [EMAIL PROTECTED] > if it takes of

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Paul Winkler wrote: > > Frank Barknecht wrote: > > I think, that a linux audio user list (LAU?) would be the most important > > next step. Unfortunatly linux-audio-using still means, that one has to be > > familiar with too much development issues. The reason is obvious: a lot of > > the interest

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread douglas irving repetto
Paul Winkler wrote: > BTW, if someone (jorn & douglas?) gets this started, can we > please have it archived somewhere from day 1? Might as well get > it right from the beginning. okay, i'll just go ahead and set up [EMAIL PROTECTED] if it takes off, that's great, if not it only cost me a few

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread Paul Winkler
Frank Barknecht wrote: > I think, that a linux audio user list (LAU?) would be the most important > next step. Unfortunatly linux-audio-using still means, that one has to be > familiar with too much development issues. The reason is obvious: a lot of > the interesting audio software still is in he

RE: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread Richard W.E. Furse
e at least. --Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Phillips Sent: 25 May 2001 15:47 To: LAD Mail Subject: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts [...] So I'm wondering: Is there any interest in a division into

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2001-05-25 10:47 -0400, Dave Phillips wrote: > And as ever, I'm still somewhat dismayed at the number of Linux audio > coders who are *not* present in LAD traffic. I don't know why this > should be so Lack of visibility ? Everybody knows about linux-*@vger.kernel.org but you have to dig a b

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread douglas irving repetto
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > douglas, i heard you still have bandwidth to spare on > roar.music.columbia.edu ? > let's go for it. yar, you all decide what's needed and i'll be glad to host it. douglas -- douglas irving repetto http://music.columbia.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread douglas irving repetto
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > > douglas irving repetto wrote: > > > > Dave Phillips wrote: > > > > > > Greetings: > > > > i think that i'm subscribed to some ultra low volume linux audio users > > list...although i can't remember the name or the address...oh yeah, > > it's: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread Jay Ts
> > LAD/devel -- developers of Linux audio software > LAD/users -- users of Linux audio software > LAD/announce -- moderated? co-working with your webpages? First of all, I just wanted to say that this seems sensible to me, too. > >I've received some messages > >from disgruntled developers w

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
douglas irving repetto wrote: > > Dave Phillips wrote: > > > > Greetings: > > i think that i'm subscribed to some ultra low volume linux audio users > list...although i can't remember the name or the address...oh yeah, > it's: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ahem. might the fact that vger.rutgers.edu ha

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Juhana Sadeharju hat gesagt: // Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > >From:Dave Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >see it continue so. However, I'm wondering if perhaps it isn't time to > >split LAD into something like the comp.os.linux.development newsgroup, > >where there is a further division in

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-26 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Dave Phillips wrote: > > Greetings: > > So I'm wondering: Is there any interest in a division into LAD/systen > and LAD/apps ? good idea. how about linux-audio-user ? as to topics, i'd propose everything about linux audio *except* "getting-my-soundcard-to-work" type questions. let's by all

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-25 Thread douglas irving repetto
Dave Phillips wrote: > > Greetings: i think that i'm subscribed to some ultra low volume linux audio users list...although i can't remember the name or the address...oh yeah, it's: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so there may already be a list for more user-oriented stuff... anyway, if we do want to brea

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-25 Thread Josh Green
> > LAD/devel -- developers of Linux audio software > > LAD/users -- users of Linux audio software > > LAD/announce -- moderated? co-working with your webpages? > Sounds good to me as well. Seems like the way things are currently might scare users who want to be part of Linux audio developeme

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-25 Thread David G Matthews
I agree completely! This is a great and informative list, but we could _definitely_ also stand to have a more user-focused listserv. -dgm On Fri, 25 May 2001, Dave Phillips wrote: > Greetings: > > When LAD was first founded the name choice (Linux Audio Development) > was deliberate in order

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-25 Thread Steve Harris
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 08:07:55PM +0300, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > >From:Dave Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >see it continue so. However, I'm wondering if perhaps it isn't time to > >split LAD into something like the comp.os.linux.development newsgroup, > >where there is a further di

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-25 Thread Vincent Touquet
Dave Phillips wrote: >Greetings: [cut] > I'm not against. By whatever means, people should feel free to ask when they have a problem or a thought. I don't think they get ignored in here ? But if you think a seperate list is better, then do so. But then we will have to subscribe to two lists (bu

Re: [linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-25 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
>From: Dave Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >see it continue so. However, I'm wondering if perhaps it isn't time to >split LAD into something like the comp.os.linux.development newsgroup, >where there is a further division into c.o.l.d.system and c.o.l.d.apps. I don't see a need for exactly the a

[linux-audio-dev] developers and development: some thoughts

2001-05-25 Thread Dave Phillips
Greetings: When LAD was first founded the name choice (Linux Audio Development) was deliberate in order to hopefully accomodate users and developers in an open forum. Very obviously the group now tends heavily towards developers and their concerns, and many members of the list know it as the Li