Re: [linux-audio-dev] ragas and talas

2002-12-17 Thread Tim Goetze
Paul Winkler wrote: >> rupak - seven counts: 3+2 > = 5??? rupak: 3+2+2 >> jhaptal - ten counts: 2+3+3+3 > = 11??? jhaptal: 2+3+2+3 sorry, and thanks for pointing at it. tim

Re: [linux-audio-dev] ragas and talas

2002-12-17 Thread Tim Goetze
Paul Davis wrote: >but nobody counts them in 4 sections. actually, nobody really counts >them at all! this idea that classical indian music even counts beats >its a bit of a misnomer to start with. they conceive of the tala as a >cycle, in fact literally a circle in some instructional works. rathe

Re: [linux-audio-dev] ragas and talas

2002-12-17 Thread Tim Goetze
David Gerard Matthews wrote: >>[33] Over eighty-five percent of the ragas on the CDs have been >>performed in tintal. >Way off-topic: I wonder if that's due to western influence, since >the 16 beats of tintal somewhat resemble the 4-bar 4/4 phrase of >western music. way off-topic, and way specul

Re: [linux-audio-dev] ragas and talas

2002-12-17 Thread Paul Winkler
> rupak - seven counts: 3+2 = 5??? > jhaptal - ten counts: 2+3+3+3 = 11??? -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"

[OT] Re: [linux-audio-dev] ragas and talas

2002-12-17 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 10:29:09PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: (cut) >when playing tintal. they don't. its logically divided into 4 parts: > > da-dhin-dhin-da > da-dhin-dhin-da > da-tin-tin-na > na-dhin-dhin-da (cut) Suddenly, I understand more of the Kruder and Dorfmeister LP I reall

Re: [linux-audio-dev] ragas and talas

2002-12-16 Thread David Gerard Matthews
Tim Goetze wrote: [33] Over eighty-five percent of the ragas on the CDs have been performed in tintal. tim Way off-topic: I wonder if that's due to western influence, since the 16 beats of tintal somewhat resemble the 4-bar 4/4 phrase of western music. However, tintal can also be subdivided

Re: [linux-audio-dev] ragas and talas

2002-12-16 Thread Paul Davis
>Among the talas which are in common use, the sixteen-beat tintal >(or trital: 4+4+4+4) is perhaps the most popular today [33]. >Other common talas are: > > dadra - six counts: 3+3 > rupak - seven counts: 3+2 > kaharva - eight counts: 4+4 > jhaptal - ten counts: 2+3+3+3 > ektal and chautal - twel

[linux-audio-dev] ragas and talas

2002-12-16 Thread Tim Goetze
for no special reason and with the intent of public delight, here's an excerpt from "The Raga Guide", published by Nimbus Records in association with the Rotterdam Conservatory of Music, by Joep Bor, Suvarnalata Rao, Wim van der Meer and Jane Harvey, musicians on the CD set are: Hariprasad Chaur