RE: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-23 Thread Bob Ham
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:25, Ivica Bukvic wrote: Hopefully, at some point, most of the computing chain will be free, including the hardware. And who will fund such a development? How do you think the Linux kernel is being developed so fast? If we wait for us geeks to come up with such a

RE: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-23 Thread Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 10:59, Ivica Bukvic wrote: It is important to note some of Apple's contributions to the open source community besides darwin. Darwin was not developed by Apple. It's originally a project that was developed on Intel machines. Apple took it on since it had an acceptable

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]t

2003-06-22 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:19:21PM -0400, Ivica Bukvic wrote: My point exactly :-). Just to add a bit onto this issue is that we could still support non-opensource systems, but they would need to purchase the software (see my other e-mail with the Trolltech as an example). Dual licensing is a

RE: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano
Software would remain open-source. But the assumption is if you are willing to part with the freedoms Linux and other GNU OS's offer, and pay for a costlier system, as well as a bunch of shrink-wrapped apps, then you might as well pay for the oss apps and help the oss community. No one would

RE: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Do we want to _become_ what our competition is? I don't think so. I don't like pushy tactics. We are (by some measure) successsfull because we are not like the competition. Point well taken. However, as someone pointed out earlier, we need more contributors to our community in order to have

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]t

2003-06-21 Thread Max Nickel
Am Son, 2003-06-22 um 02.46 schrieb Tim Hockin: In the end, we will not reap what we have sown. Users on the OS X will be theoretically able to run Ardour as much as we will, especially now that jackd has been ported to OS X. To me, this does not seem right. I guess I don't see it as a

RE: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]t

2003-06-21 Thread Ivica Bukvic
I wouldn't decline this idea so fast, i think he made a valid point. If you watch todays software market, especially the battle between the OSes, you can see Apple as well as M$ aquiring so-called Killer-Applications which shall force people who need that Apps to move to their OS. Especially