Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-20 Thread Sam Bull
Thanks everyone for the responses. I'll start setting up my backup strategy in 2 or 3 weeks. I'll give the diff and unionFS tips a go, and report back on any progress. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Daniel Mizyrycki
On 07/18/14 06:40, Russell Coker wrote: Displaying backups is an issue of backup software. It is above the level that BTRFS development touches. While people here can probably offer generic advice on backup software it's not the topic of the list. As said, I don't mind developing the software.

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Imran Geriskovan
It's not about snapshots but here is an other incremental backup recipe for optical mediums like DVDs, BlueRays: Base Backup: 1) Create encrypted loopback devices of DVD or BlueRay sizes. 2) Create a compressed multi device Btrfs spanning these loopback devices. (To save space, you may use sin

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Mike Hartman
>> And, finally, nobody has mentioned on the possibility of merging >> multiple snapshots into a single snapshot. Would this be possible, to >> create a snapshot that contains the most recent version of each file >> present across all of the snapshots (including files which may be >> present in onl

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Duncan
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:55:26 +0600 Roman Mamedov wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:45:37 + (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > > Russell Coker posted on Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:35:20 +1000 as > > excerpted: > > > > > Daily snapshots work welk with kernel 3.14 and above (I had > > > p

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:56:58 Sam Bull wrote: > On ven, 2014-07-18 at 14:35 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > Ignoring directories in send/recv is done by subvol. Even if you use > > rsync it's a good idea to have different subvols for directory trees > > with different backup requirements. > > So, a

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 05:34:22 -0700 Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Effectively, admins can choose NOCOW XOR frequent-snapshotting, altho > the fact that snapshots stop at subvolume borders can be used as a > partial workaround, by putting NOCOW files on a dedicated partition and > not snaps

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Sam Bull
Thanks for the replies, I think that's most of the questions answered. I'll not bother backing up any VMs, as they won't contain anything worth backing up. Can anybody answer the last couple of remaining questions? On ven, 2014-07-18 at 14:35 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > Ignoring directories in s

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:45:37 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Russell Coker posted on Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:35:20 +1000 as excerpted: > > > Daily snapshots work welk with kernel 3.14 and above (I had problems > > with 3.13 and previous). I have snapshots every 15 mins on some subv

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Duncan
Russell Coker posted on Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:35:20 +1000 as excerpted: > Daily snapshots work welk with kernel 3.14 and above (I had problems > with 3.13 and previous). I have snapshots every 15 mins on some subvols. > > Very large numbers of snapshots can cause performance problems. I > suggest k

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-18 Thread Bob Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/07/14 05:35, Russell Coker wrote: > Daily snapshots work welk with kernel 3.14 and above (I had > problems with 3.13 and previous). I have snapshots every 15 mins on > some subvols. > > Very large numbers of snapshots can cause performance probl

Re: Questions on incremental backups

2014-07-17 Thread Russell Coker
Daily snapshots work welk with kernel 3.14 and above (I had problems with 3.13 and previous). I have snapshots every 15 mins on some subvols. Very large numbers of snapshots can cause performance problems. I suggest keeping below 1000 snapshots at this time. You can use send/recv functionality