On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 17:43 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 05:35:18 PM Jarod Wilson wrote:
> > Another proposal that has been kicked around: a 3rd random chardev,
> > which implements this functionality, leaving urandom unscathed. Some
> > udev magic or a driver para
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 04:02:24PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> The only time this kicks in is when a system is under attack. If you have set
> this and
> the system is running as normal, you will never notice it even there.
So your userspace will break exactly when you least need it and can't
de
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:18:58PM -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> If this is the basis for the patch, then we should definitely NACK it.
> It sounds like snake oil fear mongering.
You're around long enough to know that Steve and his gang do nothing but
selling snake oil.
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:27:12PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> And exactly that is the concern from organizations like BSI. Their
> cryptographer's concern is that due to the volume of data that you can
> extract from /dev/urandom, you may find cycles or patterns that increase
> the probability
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 04:44:20 AM Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:27:12PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> > And exactly that is the concern from organizations like BSI. Their
> > cryptographer's concern is that due to the volume of data that you can
> > extract from
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 08:41:57AM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 19:57 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 04:56:49PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 04:37:57 PM Sasha Levin wrote:
> > > > Anyway, it won't happen fast enough to
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 08:52:34 AM Neil Horman wrote:
> > to disk device - of course only if the device adds entropy into the
> > primary pool when there are writes on the device.
>
> Yes, and thats a problem. We're assuming in the above case that writes to
> disk generate interrupts whi
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 09:11:12AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Thursday, September 08, 2011 08:52:34 AM Neil Horman wrote:
> > > to disk device - of course only if the device adds entropy into the
> > > primary pool when there are writes on the device.
> >
> > Yes, and thats a problem. We're a
From: Steve Grubb
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:48:27 -0400
> On Thursday, September 08, 2011 04:44:20 AM Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:27:12PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
>> > And exactly that is the concern from organizations like BSI. Their
>> > cryptographer's concern is
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> The system being low on entropy is another problem that should be addressed.
> For our
> purposes, we cannot say take it from TPM or RDRND or any plugin board. We
> have to have
> the mathematical analysis that goes with it, we need to know w
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