[linux-dvb] Re: CAMs - the never ending story...

2002-04-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Szymon Polom wrote: > > Hi Marcus, > > Quoting Marcus Kuba ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Am 14.04.2002 19:54:11, schrieb Martin Springer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > So in the end you (convergence) will have to fix the CAM-support anyways. Or do I >have to admit > > that your company will never deliv

[linux-dvb] Re: CAMs - the never ending story...

2002-04-14 Thread Szymon Polom
Hi Marcus, Quoting Marcus Kuba ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Am 14.04.2002 19:54:11, schrieb Martin Springer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So in the end you (convergence) will have to fix the CAM-support anyways. Or do I >have to admit > that your company will never deliver a working driver to your customer

[linux-dvb] Re: CAMs - the never ending story...

2002-04-14 Thread Marcus Kuba
Am 14.04.2002 19:54:11, schrieb Martin Springer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >However, I am pretty sure that the lawyers of the content industry >consider watching pay tv using vdr *illegal*, because vdr users >theoretically could copy and redistribute their recorded movies. Reality-check, please! The s

[linux-dvb] Re: CAMs - the never ending story...

2002-04-14 Thread Martin Springer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > maybe my english is just too bad, but could it be possible that you > didn't answer any of the questions Klaus asked ??? My intention was not to answer Klaus' questions, but to comment his mail, since he proposed that a missing CAM support of the driver could eventua

[linux-dvb] Re: Problems compiling siemens_dvb-0.9.4.tar.gz

2002-04-14 Thread Arno Wilhelm
> You are using a prepatch, not an official release. It doesn't make > sense to change the driver for every prepatch. When you are willing to > use such a prepatch you should also be willing to patch all the > drivers you use. It wasn't in pre5, so this is a pretty recent change. Ok, sorry - di

[linux-dvb] Re: Problems compiling siemens_dvb-0.9.4.tar.gz

2002-04-14 Thread mocm
Arno Wilhelm writes: > Hello, > > > dvb.c:3504: unknown field `busy' specified in initializer > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-pre6' > > make: *** [here] Error 2 > > > think I have found the cause of the error message... > > There does not seem to be a busy symbo

[linux-dvb] Re: Problems compiling siemens_dvb-0.9.4.tar.gz

2002-04-14 Thread Arno Wilhelm
Hello, > dvb.c:3504: unknown field `busy' specified in initializer > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-pre6' > make: *** [here] Error 2 think I have found the cause of the error message... There does not seem to be a busy symbol in the structure video device in the 2.4.19-pre6

[linux-dvb] Problems compiling siemens_dvb-0.9.4.tar.gz

2002-04-14 Thread Arno Wilhelm
Hello, hope that my questions is ok here on theis mailing list ... Whenever I try to compile the DVB/driver directory in the siemens_dvb-0.9.4.tar.gz packet I get following error: > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.19-pre6/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -

[linux-dvb] Re: CAMs - the never ending story...

2002-04-14 Thread Stefan . Hagendorn
Hi Martin, maybe my english is just too bad, but could it be possible that you didn't answer any of the questions Klaus asked ??? Your answer sounds to me like it is from a politican. Much written but not much told. Stefan I agree with you that it would be helpful for the LinuxTV proje

[linux-dvb] Re: CAMs - the never ending story...

2002-04-14 Thread Martin Springer
Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > My sole intention is to help making DVB under Linux as powerful and > easy to use as under Windows, and to allow the *legal* use of pay tv > services. The LinuxDVB driver developers have made an enormous > contribution to the Linux community

[linux-dvb] Re : CAMs - the never ending story...

2002-04-14 Thread Patrick GUENEAU
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > Another, IMO even more dangerous point is that with the availability > of the infamous "SoftCAM", even people who have legally subscribed > to a pay tv service tend to use the software solution instead of > their original smart-card and hardware CAM, since the softwa

[linux-dvb] Re: Kernel 2.4.18

2002-04-14 Thread Andreas Roedl
Hello! Am Sonntag, 14. April 2002 16:46 schrieb Thorsten Heck: > > > Yesterday I installed Suse 8.0, with the 2.4.18-4GB-kernel. > > > > Do you have more than 1GB RAM? > > No, I don't. This is the kernel Yast2 decided to install. As far as I > remember, Yast always installs the -4GB-versions, at

[linux-dvb] Re: Kernel 2.4.18

2002-04-14 Thread Thorsten Heck
Hi! > > Yesterday I installed Suse 8.0, with the 2.4.18-4GB-kernel. > > Do you have more than 1GB RAM? No, I don't. This is the kernel Yast2 decided to install. As far as I remember, Yast always installs the -4GB-versions, at least on the machines I have seen so far. > This comes from Andreas

[linux-dvb] Re: Kernel 2.4.18

2002-04-14 Thread Andreas Roedl
Hello! Am Sonntag, 14. April 2002 09:43 schrieb Thorsten Heck: > > > What I should do with this error ? > > > > Get the latest driver from CVS. > > > > Marcus > > I'm afraid this does not help. Or, Andrew, did it help for you? > > Yesterday I installed Suse 8.0, with the 2.4.18-4GB-kernel. Do

[linux-dvb] Re: CAMs - the never ending story...

2002-04-14 Thread Alessio Sangalli
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > of pay tv services. The LinuxDVB driver developers have made an > enormous contribution to the Linux community by making the DVB driver > available as an Open Source project. However, all these efforts may I simply think that CAM manufacturers made an *incompatible* sy

[linux-dvb] CAMs - the never ending story...

2002-04-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
As we all know, the CAM topic is still one of the big problems with LinuxDVB. Some CAMs don't work at all, others work, but with several problems (see http://www.linuxdvb.tv/documentation/cim.html). One of the most annoying things is that, AFAIK, all CAMs work just fine under Windows. So whenever

[linux-dvb] Re: Kernel 2.4.18

2002-04-14 Thread Thorsten Heck
Hi! > > What I should do with this error ? > > Get the latest driver from CVS. > > Marcus I'm afraid this does not help. Or, Andrew, did it help for you? Yesterday I installed Suse 8.0, with the 2.4.18-4GB-kernel. I get the same errors as Andrew, the modules can't be loaded due to missing sym