Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: > That's why modern systems require signed firmware updates. Linux doesn't. Is someone working on adding signature support to the runtime firmware loader? -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the

Re: [PATCH] Remove warning in efi_enter_virtual_mode

2013-09-10 Thread Darren Hart
On Fri, 2013-04-19 at 08:50 +0100, Matt Fleming wrote: > On 04/19/2013 01:18 AM, Darren Hart wrote: > > On 04/18/2013 09:19 AM, Matt Fleming wrote: > >> > >> Could you give it a spin on your MinnowBoard? > > > > I've removed the patch I reference above and applied your patch to my > > 3.8.4 Minnow

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 14:23 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > That's why modern systems require signed firmware updates. > > Linux doesn't. Is someone working on adding signature support to the > runtime firmware loader? It'd be simple to

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread H. Peter Anvin
On 09/10/2013 11:26 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 14:23 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: >>> That's why modern systems require signed firmware updates. >> >> Linux doesn't. Is someone working on adding signature support t

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread Kees Cook
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:51 AM, gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:29:45AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: >> On 09/10/2013 11:26 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> > On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 14:23 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Matthew Garr

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread Kees Cook
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 14:23 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> > That's why modern systems require signed firmware updates. >> >> Linux doesn't. Is someone working on adding signatu

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread gre...@linuxfoundation.org
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:29:45AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 09/10/2013 11:26 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 14:23 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >>> That's why modern systems require signed firmware updates

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread David Lang
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013, Kees Cook wrote: Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:51 AM, gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:29:45AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: On 09/10/2013 11:26 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On T

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread H. Peter Anvin
On 09/10/2013 12:17 PM, David Lang wrote: >> >> In theory these blobs are traceable to a manufacturer. It's not really >> an indication that it's "safe" more than it's an indication that it >> hasn't been changed. But I haven't chased this very hard yet because >> of below... > > well, not if you

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread H. Peter Anvin
On 09/10/2013 04:55 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote: >> >> What would the deliverables be from the hardware vendor and what tools >> would you expect them to need on their end? > > The package installer needs to not only install files, but file metadata > as well. Elena Reshetova (Intel) has already added r

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread H. Peter Anvin
On 09/10/2013 04:43 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > Why invent yet another method of verifying the integrity of a file based > on a signature? Why not use the existing method for appraising files? > Just create a new integrity hook at the appropriate place. > What would the deliverables be from the h

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread Mimi Zohar
On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 16:48 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 09/10/2013 04:43 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > > Why invent yet another method of verifying the integrity of a file based > > on a signature? Why not use the existing method for appraising files? > > Just create a new integrity hook at t

Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown

2013-09-10 Thread Mimi Zohar
On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 12:44 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 09/10/2013 12:17 PM, David Lang wrote: > >> > >> In theory these blobs are traceable to a manufacturer. It's not really > >> an indication that it's "safe" more than it's an indication that it > >> hasn't been changed. But I haven't chas