Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:51:32 PST, Eric Anopolsky said: > their own kernels in the first place. IMHO, it's reasonable to expect > the small minority of Linux users who want to compile their own kernels > to learn that "EXPERIMENTAL" means something. And what, exactly, does it mean, given that ther

Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-02 Thread Eric Sandeen
Adrian Bunk wrote: > Most people and all distributions use CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y simply > because too many options (including options required for hardware > support) depend on it. > > Compare e.g.: > - "Marvell SATA support (HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL)" > - "Provide NFSv4 client support (EXPERIMENTAL)

Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-02 Thread Eric Anopolsky
> > Isn't CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL enough? > > Most people and all distributions use CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y simply > because too many options (including options required for hardware > support) depend on it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think most people use the distro-provided precompiled kernels. This is

Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-02 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 23:16 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:26:29PM +0100, Diego Calleja wrote: > > El Wed, 2 Jan 2008 03:32:18 +0200, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > > > It might make sense to offer ext4 in -mm and even in early -rc kernels, > > > but I've

Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-02 Thread Alan Cox
> Stable kernels are mainly meant for usage, not for trying stuff. You appear to be reinventing history in your attempt to justify removing CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL. > And although I see a point in perhaps shipping some not-yet-perfect > device drivers for otherwise unsupported hardware or some > not

Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:26:29PM +0100, Diego Calleja wrote: > El Wed, 2 Jan 2008 03:32:18 +0200, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > It might make sense to offer ext4 in -mm and even in early -rc kernels, > > but I've already seen people using ext4 simply because a stable kernel >

Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-02 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:41:57 -0700 Andreas Dilger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 02, 2008 03:32 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > It might make sense to offer ext4 in -mm and even in early -rc kernels, > > but I've already seen people using ext4 simply because a stable kernel > > offered it - a

Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 10:41:57AM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote: > On Jan 02, 2008 03:32 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > It might make sense to offer ext4 in -mm and even in early -rc kernels, > > but I've already seen people using ext4 simply because a stable kernel > > offered it - and that's def

Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-02 Thread Diego Calleja
El Wed, 2 Jan 2008 03:32:18 +0200, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > It might make sense to offer ext4 in -mm and even in early -rc kernels, > but I've already seen people using ext4 simply because a stable kernel > offered it - and that's definitely not intended. But isn't that the w

Re: [2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-02 Thread Andreas Dilger
On Jan 02, 2008 03:32 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > It might make sense to offer ext4 in -mm and even in early -rc kernels, > but I've already seen people using ext4 simply because a stable kernel > offered it - and that's definitely not intended. > > Anyone who _really_ wants to test ext4 should

[2.6.24 patch] let EXT4DEV_FS depend on BROKEN

2008-01-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
It might make sense to offer ext4 in -mm and even in early -rc kernels, but I've already seen people using ext4 simply because a stable kernel offered it - and that's definitely not intended. Anyone who _really_ wants to test ext4 should anyway be able to do the trivial change of removing the "