Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-03 Thread adrian15
Thomas Lange and I did some work together on improving the FAI Ubuntu package so that it worked on Ubuntu 9.10. If I remember it ok we get stuck on the partition creation because a package (sfdisk maybe?) was not accepting linux-swap instead of swap as the partition type (or viceveresa). I w

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread Henning Sprang
Hi Adrian, adrian15 wrote: > I was just wondering if Thomas had seen if this bug was solved or not. > Are we going to have FAI working ok on Ubuntu 9.10? Last thing I heard was that the fai package will be removed completely from Ubuntu, even though my opinion is, that softupdate and dirinstall w

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread Thomas Lange
> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:42:14 +0200, adrian15 said: > Thomas Lange and I did some work together on improving the FAI Ubuntu > package so that it worked on Ubuntu 9.10. We (three people) decided to remove the fai packages from Ubuntu 9.10, since currently there's nobody that has time

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread Per Foreby
Thomas Lange wrote: >> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:42:14 +0200, adrian15 >> said: > > > Thomas Lange and I did some work together on improving the FAI Ubuntu > > package so that it worked on Ubuntu 9.10. > We (three people) decided to remove the fai packages from Ubuntu 9.10, > since

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread Per Foreby
Henning Sprang wrote: > Per Foreby wrote: >> Our setup depends heavily on softupdate, and we're in the process of >> switching from Debian to Ubuntu on desktop, so this sounds like bad news. > > Good to have some more people tell this! > > When this decision was made, I heavily disagreed, but no

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread Thomas Lange
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:47:51 +0200, Per Foreby said: > Our setup depends heavily on softupdate, and we're in the process of > switching from Debian to Ubuntu on desktop, so this sounds like bad news. I can only care about FAI in Debian. In the past Ubuntu often changed things that b

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread Henning Sprang
Per Foreby wrote: > Our setup depends heavily on softupdate, and we're in the process of > switching from Debian to Ubuntu on desktop, so this sounds like bad news. Good to have some more people tell this! When this decision was made, I heavily disagreed, but no one believed me that people are us

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread Per Foreby
Thomas Lange wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:47:51 +0200, Per Foreby said: > > > Our setup depends heavily on softupdate, and we're in the process of > > switching from Debian to Ubuntu on desktop, so this sounds like bad > news. > I can only care about FAI in Debian. In the past Ub

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread Henning Sprang
Per Foreby wrote: > Since Ubuntu is basically a sid snapshot, one might think that it would > be trivial to support fai on Ubuntu. It should (and most probably really is) for the softupdate and dirintalls part - it is not for the network/cd-install part due to dependecies against special layered

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread adrian15
Thomas Lange escribió: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:42:14 +0200, adrian15 said: > Thomas Lange and I did some work together on improving the FAI Ubuntu > package so that it worked on Ubuntu 9.10. We (three people) decided to remove the fai packages from Ubuntu 9.10, since currently there's

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-04 Thread Henning Sprang
Slightly OT, but: adrian15 wrote: > that might be solved with Debian new six-month relesase cycle. Debian's what? Last thing I heard was two years - did I miss something? Henning

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-05 Thread adrian15 adrian15
2009/9/4 Henning Sprang : > Slightly OT, but: > > adrian15 wrote: >> that might be solved with Debian new six-month relesase cycle. > > Debian's what? > > Last thing I heard was two years - did I miss something? Sorry, I meant two years cycle. The six-month is the Ubuntu's one. Let's not flame! ;)

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-05 Thread Henning Sprang
adrian15 adrian15 wrote: > Let's not flame! ;) That wasn't my intention at all, I just wondered if I missed something, maybe a decision to implement the CUT concept(http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/debian/cut/) on a 6 month base... Henning -- Henning Sprang http://www.sprang.de +49 (0) 176 8218

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-05 Thread Per Foreby
Henning Sprang wrote: > That wasn't my intention at all, I just wondered if I missed something, > maybe a decision to implement the CUT > concept(http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/debian/cut/) on a 6 month base... Interesting. That would be exactly what we would need to be able to stay with Debian o

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-05 Thread Per Foreby
Henning Sprang wrote: > I'm advocating, that it would have been good at least update and > dirinstall would be available in Ubuntu. Softupdate would do for me. You can always install the base in some other way (Debian FAI server, clonezilla, g4l, ...) and then use softupdate to get things exactly

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-06 Thread Robert Markula
> Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:43:22 +0200 > From: Per Foreby > Subject: Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status? > To: linux-fai > Message-ID: <4aa240ca.1020...@ddg.lth.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Softupdate would do for me. You can a

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 4. September 2009, Per Foreby wrote: > To me, softupdate is more important than install. The base installation > can be achieved in other ways. to me too! regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-06 Thread Henning Sprang
Robert Markula wrote: > I'm going offtopic here, but if nothing else works and you *need* > softupdate functionality, you could always revert to some config > management tool. But the whole point of the discussion is, that some people rather like _FAI_ as their config management tool - that's wha

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-06 Thread Robert Markula
Hi Henning, Henning Sprang wrote: > It's not very helpful to the cause of spreading FAI usage to send > them another way if FAI can do the same - in many aspects better, and by > far mnore flexible, because it can incorporate all the other tools and > programming language you like. Well, I'm not

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-06 Thread Henning Sprang
Robert Markula wrote: > Well, I'm not an evangelist of any specific software or platform. Any > software is just a tool to get work done, and I like good tools, that's > why I like FAI - because it is one of those proven, reliable tools that > tremendously speeds up my work and simplifies many thin

Re: Fai on Ubuntu 9.10 status?

2009-09-06 Thread Robert Markula
Hi again! Henning Sprang wrote: > With the removal decision FAI gives away the potential for larger > adoption - despite it is perfectly useable for config management on many > distributions - even when installation functionality does not work (and > even therefore there was a good workaround docu