Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Steve Modica
David S. Miller wrote: Matti Aarnio writes: I am contemplating to periodically turn off the ECN bit to let email out, but DaveM has veto there. I veto, the whole point of moving to ECN was to make a statement and get people to fix their kit. We will remove these people, that's

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Tony Hoyle
Richard Gooch wrote: In fact, hopefully he's still in a dark mood, and he may take up the suggestion to bounce mails of the following type: - MIME encoded - HTML encoded - quoted printables (those stupid =20 things are particuarly hard to read). Surely it'd be better to get the list to

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Rogier Wolff
Richard Gooch wrote: Dave sent a message out a week or two ago saying he was going to do it soon. And back in January he said he'd be doing it in February. The kernel list FAQ has stated this right at the top, in big, bright red letters. Yesterday, after I saw Dave's announcement, I updated

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Steve Modica
Rogier Wolff wrote: The we'll turn it on in February warning is worth NOTHING in this situation: February comes and goes. March comes and goes. Everybody who read the warning will think: Ok, so I must be fine. A warning of the form: ECN will go on as soon as this message clears the queues

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Erik Mouw
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 06:51:57AM -0500, Brent D. Norris wrote: I veto, the whole point of moving to ECN was to make a statement and get people to fix their kit. Isn't this a problem though because the messge saying that ECN was enabled was set after ECN was enabled? Thus these people

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Alan Cox
Matti Aarnio writes: I am contemplating to periodically turn off the ECN bit to let email out, but DaveM has veto there. I veto, the whole point of moving to ECN was to make a statement and get people to fix their kit. We will remove these people, that's all. Since HTML email also

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Richard Gooch
Brent D. Norris writes: I veto, the whole point of moving to ECN was to make a statement and get people to fix their kit. We will remove these people, that's all. Isn't this a problem though because the messge saying that ECN was enabled was set after ECN was enabled? Thus these

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Brent D. Norris
I veto, the whole point of moving to ECN was to make a statement and get people to fix their kit. Isn't this a problem though because the messge saying that ECN was enabled was set after ECN was enabled? Thus these people have no idea what is going on and they probably won't know what to fix

RE: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Christian, Chip
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ECN is on! Rogier Wolff wrote: The we'll turn it on in February warning is worth NOTHING in this situation: February comes and goes. March comes and goes. Everybody who read the warning will think: Ok, so I must be fine

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Matti Aarnio
FOLKS, I HAVE ALL THE TIME USED 'Reply-To:' HEADER POINTING TO linux-kernel -- INSTEAD OF ALL THE LISTS... If you want to continue this, do it there. (Before I decide to taboo Re: ECN is on! subject line..) On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:23:29PM -0400, Richard Gooch wrote: ... Well

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread David S. Miller
Matti Aarnio writes: I am contemplating to periodically turn off the ECN bit to let email out, but DaveM has veto there. I veto, the whole point of moving to ECN was to make a statement and get people to fix their kit. We will remove these people, that's all. Later, David S. Miller [EMAIL

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Matthias Andree
Richard Gooch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure, Dave is being bloody-minded, but that's the only way we'll see people get off their fat, lazy asses and fix their broken systems. In fact, hopefully he's still in a dark mood, and he may take up the suggestion to bounce mails of the following