Re: [FAQ-answer] Re: soft RAID5 + journalled FS + power failure =problems ?

2000-01-12 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:21:17 -0500 (EST), Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Gadi Oxman wrote: >> As far as I know, we took care not to poke into the buffer cache to >> find clean buffers -- in raid5.c, the only code which does a find_buffer() >> is: > yep, this i

Re: [FAQ-answer] Re: soft RAID5 + journalled FS + power failure = problems ?

2000-01-12 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:41:55 -0600, "Mark Ferrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Perhaps I am confused. How is it that a power outage while attached > to the UPS becomes "unpredictable"? One of the most common ways to get an outage while on a UPS is somebody tripping over, or otherwise r

Re: [FAQ-answer] Re: soft RAID5 + journalled FS + power fai

2000-01-12 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:28:28 MET-1, "Petr Vandrovec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I did not follow this thread (on -fsdevel) too close (and I never > looked into RAID code, so I should shut up), but... can you > confirm that after buffer with data is finally marked dirty, parity > is recomp

Re: [FAQ-answer] Re: soft RAID5 + journalled FS + power failure =problems ?

2000-01-12 Thread Benno Senoner
"Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: > Ideally, what I'd like to see the reconstruction code do is to: > > * lock a stripe > * read a new copy of that stripe locally > * recalc parity and write back whatever disks are necessary for the stripe > * unlock the stripe > > so that the data never goes through t

Re: [FAQ-answer] Re: soft RAID5 + journalled FS + power failure =problems ?

2000-01-12 Thread Ingo Molnar
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Gadi Oxman wrote: > As far as I know, we took care not to poke into the buffer cache to > find clean buffers -- in raid5.c, the only code which does a find_buffer() > is: yep, this is still the case. (Sorry Stephen, my bad.) We will have these problems once we try to elimin

Re: [FAQ-answer] Re: soft RAID5 + journalled FS + power fai

2000-01-12 Thread Petr Vandrovec
On 11 Jan 00 at 22:24, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: > The race I'm concerned about could occur when the raid driver wants to > compute parity for a stripe and finds some of the blocks are present, > and clean, in the buffer cache. Raid assumes that those buffers > represent what is on disk, naturall

Re: file system size limits

2000-01-12 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 05:14:29PM +0100, Manfred Spraul wrote: > 2^10 kilo > 2^20 mega > 2^30 giga > 2^40 terra > > ---> 2^^41== 2 terrabyte. Sorry Manfred, the multiplier is 'TERA' - not 'TERRA', which rather confusing spelling difference is used by M$ to market their Terra

Re: [FAQ-answer] Re: soft RAID5 + journalled FS + power failure = problems ?

2000-01-12 Thread Mark Ferrell
Perhaps I am confused. How is it that a power outage while attached to the UPS becomes "unpredictable"? We run a Dell PowerEdge 2300/400 using Linux software raid and the system monitors it's own UPS. When power failure occures the system will bring itself down to a minimal state (runleve

Re: UMSDOS under i386 and PPC

2000-01-12 Thread Matija Nalis
On 8 Jan 2000 11:44:28 +0100, Yair Itzhaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've found a cross-platform incompatibility when passing UMSDOS formatted >media (a FLASH disk) between i386 and PowerPC. Media created under i386 >cannot be read using a PPC platform, and vice-versa. > >I've traced it to the f

Re: [FAQ-answer] Re: soft RAID5 + journalled FS + power failure = problems ?

2000-01-12 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:12:55 +0200 (IST), Gadi Oxman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Stephen, I'm afraid that there are some misconceptions about the > RAID-5 code. I don't think so --- I've been through this with Ingo --- but I appreciate your feedback since I'm getting inconsistent advise her

Re: [FAQ-answer] Re: soft RAID5 + journalled FS + power failure = problems ?

2000-01-12 Thread mauelsha
"Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:03:03 +0100, mauelsha > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >> THIS IS EXPECTED. RAID-5 isn't proof against multiple failures, and the > >> only way you can get bitten by this failure mode is to have a system > >> failure and a disk fail