On 3/30/99 5:21 PM Jeff King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
>
>> On 3/30/99 3:49 PM Jeff King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> >
>> >You stated earlier that "There is no need for areas outside of propagation
>> >range to be on the same frequency". You also stated that "the 144.3
On 3/30/99 10:10 PM James Chance ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>non-standard IRQs he was actively asking for help with). Another impression I
>got was that QuickBasic was the only language he was "comfortable" with. This
>took place one to two years ago, so he may very well have gotten
>"comfortabl
First post to the collective, please be gentle :-)
"Karl F. Larsen" wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
>
> } On 3/30/99 11:01 AM Karl F. Larsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> }
> } >On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
> } >
>
> Big snip
>
> } >because it runs in
On 3/30/99 5:39 PM Bob Lorenzini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>I have neither the ability nor the inclination and if I did I would have
>to pay a tithe. What is the point you are trying to make? that I'm a dumb
>shit and your a god?
Actually. my point was exactly the opposite. There is nothing es
Bob Snyder wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:
> I'm also not clear how NTP would cope in the situation where the MAC layer
> could delay the packet's transmission by many seconds.
BS> I know NTP is designed to cope with fair amounts of network
BS> delay; it's built into the protocol. Of cours
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
} On 3/30/99 3:37 PM Karl F. Larsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
}
} > Well if I had the dos source code it might be possible for me to
} >do that. To just take function and write a server from that is miles ahead
} >of my capability. And if I had t
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
> So my original point is why don't you write it?
>
I have neither the ability nor the inclination and if I did I would have
to pay a tithe. What is the point you are trying to make? that I'm a dumb
shit and your a god? There is on this list an indivi
Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
> On 3/30/99 3:49 PM Jeff King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> >You stated earlier that "There is no need for areas outside of propagation
> >range to be on the same frequency". You also stated that "the 144.39
> >allocation is for North America".
> >
> The message I resp
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Subject: Re: APRS for Linux?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:28:14 -0800
From: James S. Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, you wrote:
>Geez, with this much hostility, I'm forced to believe an APRSer stole his
>wife! On behalf of all the APRS-s
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Subject: Re: APRS for Linux?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:36:08 -0800
From: James S. Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, you wrote:
>Maybe the W7 users refused to report on their activities due to the
>confrontational style of communication o
Please pardon this if it is a duplicate - I recieved a bounced mail
notice from some system in the chain to vger.
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 04:36:53PM -0500, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> All,
>
> I have managed to get ax25-utils-2.1.42a to compile with the exception of
> axspawn. It is looking
I was thinking of adding one for another app. sure would cut the Inet
traffic (what little there is) from APrs servers.
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Steve Meuse wrote:
> >
> >Or, perhaps we should think of it as a poorly-designed multicast
> >system.
> >
> >APRS over the MBONE anyone?
> >
> >-tjs
On 3/30/99 3:37 PM Karl F. Larsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Well if I had the dos source code it might be possible for me to
>do that. To just take function and write a server from that is miles ahead
>of my capability. And if I had that capability it might just be too much
>work for the
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 05:10:16PM +0300, Tomi Manninen wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 03:15:32PM +0200, Jonathan NAYLOR wrote:
>
> > > What widget set does the KDE stuff use ? I rather like the look of it,
> > > I have to explain that although
Not a specific 2.2.4 problem. But since there are lots of 486-scroungers on
this list, I thought that this hint might be helpful and reduce
Aspirin consumption...;>/
One of my old 486 has a Bios not made for disks larger than 540mb but it
can still recognize and ident a 1gb disk and load it
All,
I have managed to get ax25-utils-2.1.42a to compile with the exception of
axspawn. It is looking for a function forkpty that I haven't been able to
find in the libraries to link it with. The header that defines forkpty is
/usr/include/pty.h.
Overall the changes to get the rest of the util
On 3/30/99 3:49 PM Jeff King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>I'm sure I'm being nit picky here but I think you either missed my point
>or thought I was talking about Australia.
>
>You stated earlier that "There is no need for areas outside of propagation
>range to be on the same frequency". You also
Steve:
I'm sure I'm being nit picky here but I think you either missed my point
or thought I was talking about Australia.
You stated earlier that "There is no need for areas outside of propagation
range to be on the same frequency". You also stated that "the 144.39
allocation is for North Americ
On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:13:31 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> It seems that mktime is not happy about a positive value for
> isdst in the tm structure - it being zero during the winter!! and
> causing mktime to return 1- (ie. failure).
I've just had a look at the source of 'msfclock'
(http://w
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
} On 3/30/99 11:01 AM Karl F. Larsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
}
} >On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
} >
Big snip
} >because it runs in Linux; can't use my FBB bbs because it runs in Linux.
} >
} > See the problem Steve?
}
On 3/30/99 1:33 PM Jeff King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
>
>>
>> The 144.39 allocation is for North America only. There is no need for
>> areas outside propagation range to be on the same frequency. Australia
>> should set their own policy based on their own needs.
>
>Bein
Alan Crosswell wrote:
>
> irrespective of the ugly protocols under the hood. Do it
> Internet-style, invent a better wheel, submit an IETF draft and get a
> standards-track protocol assigned and I'll be the first to make my
> APRS-related GPL'd code work with it. In fact, if there were a UDP
>
No, I'm not that close. However, I could just stuff AX.25 frames, warts
and all into a UDP payload. I really should take that PIC-E out of the
box already!
/a
>
>Or, perhaps we should think of it as a poorly-designed multicast
>system.
>
>APRS over the MBONE anyone?
>
>-tjs
I'm willing to bet there are only a few of us that have Mbone tunnels to
our houses.
-Steve
Hi guys,
Are these the only cards to work with packet radio?
Echo Speech Corp.
Personal Sound system
Cardinal DSP16 (Plus)
Orchid Soundwave 32
Wearness Beethoven.
Is there a "best" soundcard for packet radio purposes?
PS. I've spent few hours surfing the net to buy soundwave 32 with
little succ
Subject: Re: APRS for Linux?
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 12:13:06 -0500
From: Steve Dimse K4HG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [...]
> APRServe is the central server for APRS on the internet. ...
> It accepts
> data from dozens or hundreds of connections, removes the dups, fixes a
> few packets that ne
-Original Message-
From: Steve Dimse K4HG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Bob Lorenzini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; James S. Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: APRS for Linux?
snip..
>But I never paid a penny
I have sent an excerpt of the PTC-II version 2.5 manual to Karl. It
is 32 K long and I will spare the list from receiving it. It deals
with the modulation and encoding methods used by the PTC-II. Anyone
else on this list interested in a copy please email me directly.
I downloaded a huge file co
Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
>
> The 144.39 allocation is for North America only. There is no need for
> areas outside propagation range to be on the same frequency. Australia
> should set their own policy based on their own needs.
Being 144.39 is VHF, and as such its typical propagation range is li
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 04:31:17PM +0200, Jonathan NAYLOR wrote:
> > How about GTK ? That would be GPL at least.
>
> But thats another language isn't it ?
>
> I have no desire to rewrite it, although I could be persuaded to convert it to Java
> as an intellectual exercise.
>
> Jonathan
GTK is
"Pertti Karppinen (OH6KTR)" wrote:
> My opinion might be a bit biased, but I would recommend FLTK
> (available at http://www.fltk.org). It's released under LGPL
> and compiles on most *nixes (including linux) and also on Win32
> platforms.
>
> It has nice wysiwyg GUI-builder and it's really smal
On 3/29/99 6:43 PM Bob Lorenzini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>We own this freq and if you want to play here you must pay us money.
>
And to clarify:
No one in a leadership position within APRS has ever claimed to own any
frequency. Anyone is free to write software for APRS, though Bob does his
On 3/30/99 11:01 AM Karl F. Larsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
>
>} >
>} Pure ignorance. APRServe links together APRS local networks into a
>} seamless whole, with two way directed messaging, and is entirely TCP/IP
>
> What is a APRServe Steve?
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> Qt 2.xx is to be relased under the QPL (yet another public license),
> which is free ("Open-Source compliant" you might say). All as far as I know,
> anyway. I don't think Qt 2 is out yet though.
Qt 2.0 beta is available via cvs, check out http://www.troll.no. The
beta is
On 3/29/99 6:43 PM Bob Lorenzini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>We own this freq and if you want to play here you must pay us money.
>
>We might write a linux_version someday ($$$) so don't bother.
>
I for one would love to see a GNU version of APRS. Go For It! (Talk is
cheap!!!)
Steve K4HG
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Steve Dimse K4HG wrote:
} >
} Pure ignorance. APRServe links together APRS local networks into a
} seamless whole, with two way directed messaging, and is entirely TCP/IP
What is a APRServe Steve? I *think* I know what a local net is.
} based. As I write this, th
On 30 Mar 1999, Jonathan NAYLOR wrote:
> > How about GTK ? That would be GPL at least.
> But thats another language isn't it ?
No, just another library. If you mean "QT is written in C++ and GTK is
written in C, and I don't want to rewrite it in C", then just use the GTK
C++ binding. GTK doesn't
>I'm also not clear how NTP would cope in the situation where the MAC layer
Dave Mills spent many years finessing NTP to deal with just these sorts
of issues. NTP is used worldwide to coordinate Internet time. It works.
/a
>There is perlAPRS. Have a look at the linux hamradio applications
PerlAPRS is not an APRS display application. It is a system of triggers
tha fire based on things like one station coming within the proximity of
another, for example. Sort of a procmail for APRS.
73 de Alan N2YGK
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 03:15:32PM +0200, Jonathan NAYLOR wrote:
> I originally started writing it using the Athena widgets, but
> couldn't work out how to create a window to do straight X in, for
> the map. Its a pity that the floppies were corrupted as they also
> included my copy of Motif on t
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, James S. Kaplan wrote:
>
> APRS atands for:
>
> We Want Our Own 2m Channel, damn any other mode
>
> We Don't Want to Use Active Networking (IE: NO tcp/ip)...
>
> We Don't Care About Band Plans Or Efficient Spectrum Use...
>
> We Don't Care About Technical Issues, Ju
> I have no desire to rewrite it, although I could be persuaded to convert it to Java
> as an intellectual exercise.
>
> Jonathan
Sounds like a good idea! Very biased opinion of course ;-)
-- John Melton n6lyt/g0orx
((
(|~~|
`--'
JAVA
> How about GTK ? That would be GPL at least.
But thats another language isn't it ?
I have no desire to rewrite it, although I could be persuaded to convert it to Java
as an intellectual exercise.
Jonathan
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 03:15:32PM +0200, Jonathan NAYLOR wrote:
> > What widget set does the KDE stuff use ? I rather like the look of it,
> > I have to explain that although I have no love for MS, I do like the
> > W95 look and feel and KDE applicat
> Not quite. The real work is done by Craig. After he has finished his work
> we others will fix our stuff to use the libax25.
The whole world is waiting:-)
regards,
"73" and have a nice day
KB2QZV Linux and packet radio fan.
-
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 03:15:32PM +0200, Jonathan NAYLOR wrote:
> What widget set does the KDE stuff use ? I rather like the look of it, I have to
> explain that although I have no love for MS, I do like the W95 look and feel and
> KDE applications are quite close to it. Is it Qt ?
Yes that's Qt
On 3/30/99 7:45 AM Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>I don't care what the frequency is, but why is it in the weak signal part
>of the band?
>
>In Australia, 144.100 to 144.400 MHz is allocated to CW / SSB for
>terrestial use. Narrow Band modes only. Packet on FM is certainly not
>narrow
> Sure. Motif is cool too -- LessTif works quite well. Would it be plausible
> for someone to add a text mode interface? I usually run sattrack on
> a text terminal.
I originally started writing it using the Athena widgets, but couldn't work out
how to create a window to do straight X in, for the
> Sure. Motif is cool too -- LessTif works quite well. Would it be plausible
> for someone to add a text mode interface? I usually run sattrack on
> a text terminal.
I think I started with the Athena widgets, but I never worked out how to create a
window for using straight X calls, for the map. I
Hi Folks,
Can I put my 2 cents worth in?
>From: Bob Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Andrew Benham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Time bug
>Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 06:48:56 -0500 (EST)
>
>On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Andrew Benham wrote:
>
>> I'm also not clear how NTP would cop
> >By this I assume that KG7FU is referring to the APRS QSY to 144.39. I
> >could write a few pages on this, and I won't bore you with the messy
> >details (I was the co-chair of the TAPR committee on this issue, more
> >info at: http://www.tapr.org/aprsqsy/index.html). The reality is APRS had
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 10:38:35AM +0200, Jonathan NAYLOR wrote:
> I have a satellite tracking program for Linux that I wrote a few years ago which
>works a treat.
>
> Unlike sattrack it isn't a commercial product and its under the GPL, I just never
>got around to
> releasing it. It uses Motif,
On 29 Mar 99 at 13:36, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
> Assuming PSK is phase shift keying and C/N ratios is Signal to Noise ratio
> and FSK means Frequency Shift Keying, the words above make no sense at
> all.
I have understood that my explanation does not make your bell ring.
> My MFJ uses PSK fo
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Andrew Benham wrote:
> I'm also not clear how NTP would cope in the situation where the MAC layer
> could delay the packet's transmission by many seconds.
I know NTP is designed to cope with fair amounts of network delay; it's
built into the protocol. Of course, I don't reme
Hello Tomi, hello all,
Firstly, I want to thank Tomi for his qualified reply to my text, but
based on information I have, I would have to make some additional
remarks.
> > > Could someone explain (again :-)) the kernel installation procedure
> > > for the 2.0.31+ kernels (up to the latest 2.0.
> Depends what you had in mind ;-)
>
> I don't mind working on the scripts and modifying it to work in a multiuser
> installation -- I think the original sources work well installed into
> $HOME, but not well as part of the full system. I already did some work
> on that in the Debian package so f
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 05:02:27PM +0900, Klaus Kudielka wrote:
> > I should be able to do some work on the sattrack package this weekend.
>
> Since Bester doesn't seem to maintain SatTrack 3 anymore (I found *no*
> reference on the SatTrack homepage), I think we need a maintainer - not
> just of
On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Robin Gilks wrote:
> The original question was not about NTP - I looked at that (now I recall)
> back in September and dismissed it as being totally over the top for the
> average ham running a 486dx66 & 8M as his interface to IP over radio .
I'm also not clear how NTP would
> "...modified versions may NOT be distributed without prior consent..."
Ooops. I didn't realize that part of the license. Indeed, maintaining
is impossible without clarifying that point.
> I have asked Mr. Bester
> for permission to incorporate his software into our distro but he did not
> gran
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Klaus Kudielka wrote:
> > I should be able to do some work on the sattrack package this weekend.
>
> Since Bester doesn't seem to maintain SatTrack 3 anymore (I found *no*
> reference on the SatTrack homepage), I think we need a maintainer - not
> just of the Debian package,
I have a satellite tracking program for Linux that I wrote a few years ago which works
a treat.
Unlike sattrack it isn't a commercial product and its under the GPL, I just never got
around to
releasing it. It uses Motif, but I have plans to port it to the Qt toolkit, or
something else that
loo
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Gerd wrote:
> > Could someone explain (again :-)) the kernel installation procedure
> > for the 2.0.31+ kernels (up to the latest 2.0.x kernel) on this list?
> > Which kernels do require which patch?
> > I'll make a summary and send a AX25-HOWTO change request
> > to the main
> I should be able to do some work on the sattrack package this weekend.
Since Bester doesn't seem to maintain SatTrack 3 anymore (I found *no*
reference on the SatTrack homepage), I think we need a maintainer - not
just of the Debian package, but of the "original" tarball.
Are you going to volu
On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
> According to a message from Tomi, he is writing a new libax25 and
> when he gets that finished he will issue a new ax25-util that will compile
> with the 2.2.x kernel libs. In other words be patient. The older stuff
> will not compile with the ne
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