Re: SSH and Debian

2000-07-23 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Gaal! On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 08:56:22AM +0300, you wrote the following: > > > But another question: I don't have grep-available on my system. What > > > package provides it? > > > > grep-dctrl > > Okay, thanks! Any idea why this thing isn't installed by default? > It's 28k of download a

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > This is proof positive the Chen Shapira is _not_ a member of the cabal. There is no IGLU cabal. > On the other > hand, her denying recognition of the secret handshake signal is likely > proof positive > that she is well aware of the cabal, is on the

Re: Really? no cabal?

2000-07-23 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Nadav Har'El wrote: > Ok, this thread has gone for some time now, but PLEASE, if you plan on > continuing, at least do us a favor and explain what the f*** you're talking > about? > What on earth is a "cabal"? I'm assuming you're not talking about a > capacitor :) A cabal is a capacitor.

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Chen Shapira wrote: > > N<§²æìr¸>zǧvf¢-Ú%S{±SZު笶X§»+')pSØm...ì(­Û§²æìr¸>z)í...éz²Æ > > yºÉè+º{ayÊ&(tm)©ÝyÈhº{.nÇ+?·¦j)eS{±SZު笶X§»+ > > I give up. What language is that? APL? This is proof positive the Chen Shapira is _not_ a member of the cabal. On the other hand, her denying

Re: SSH and Debian

2000-07-23 Thread Gaal Yahas
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 01:51:05AM +0300, Alex Shnitman wrote: > > But another question: I don't have grep-available on my system. What > > package provides it? > > grep-dctrl Okay, thanks! Any idea why this thing isn't installed by default? It's 28k of download and takes 127k of space. (If gr

Re: C++ today (was "Re: GTK 1.3.1")

2000-07-23 Thread Ury Segal
> Quoth Ilya Khayutin on Fri, Jul 21, 2000: > > >From this thread I got the impression that most people > > here think that C++ is still that language which has > > no standart, used by small groups of people and is > > realy useless. Well guys... IT IS NOT THE 80s > > ANYMORE!!! > > Pity. > >

Re: SSH and Debian

2000-07-23 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Gaal! On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 02:12:08PM +0300, you wrote the following: > But another question: I don't have grep-available on my system. What > package provides it? grep-dctrl > (And while we're at it, how do I find out what package provides a > given file or functionality?) I don't kno

Re: Scanner

2000-07-23 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Ishai Parasol wrote: > Hi > > Can someone recommend a good scanner (and software) that works with > RH6.2 ? > > TIA > > Ishai http://www.mostang.com/sane - home page of "Scanner Access Now Easy". Look for the list of supported scanners. SCSI scanners are the best bet, IMHO.

Re: SAF cdr on mandrake 7.1

2000-07-23 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Mike Almogy wrote: > Hi list. > > I want to use my CDR - Smart And Friendly (IDE) on my Mandrake 7.1. > > The kernel seems to recognize the cdr on boot time, but i can't mount > it like any regular CDROM. > the error messege is : > > the kernel does not recognize /dev/cdrom2

Re: SSH and Debian

2000-07-23 Thread Gaal Yahas
On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:40:52PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: > > I need ssh1 functionality. > > Have you seen the following debs: > > [17:39:20 /tmp]$ grep-available -P ssh | grep Package > Package: ssh2 [...] Thanks, Shaul, and everybody else who replied by email. Indeed I had to use a non-US t

The IGLU Cabal - the real facts

2000-07-23 Thread Omer Zak
1. There is no IGLU Cabal. 2. The current secret IGLU Cabal members hide their identities by faking anger and using abusive language when they see a thread about the nonexistent IGLU Cabal. 3. The IGLU Cabal was founded by Harvey J. Stein and the mysterious Asker Of The First Question Whi

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Gaal Yahas
On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 05:09:14PM +0300, Adam Morrison wrote: > > > > > > The people on the cabal include myself, me, moi, men'ya, and min. > > > > Marc,, stop harassing the poor fool. There is no IGLU cabal. > > Oh my God, they got to Zadka as well! fnord. -- believing is seeing [EMAIL PROT

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Ira Abramov
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mike Almogy wrote: > How do you know ? maybe he's on holiday or something ? > > > OK, that was stupid. > Please stop this cabal thing. yeah, just got home and saw this thread. don't anyone read the FAQ anymore? http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/94.html this could have sav

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mike Almogy wrote: > How do you know ? maybe he's on holiday or something ? > > > OK, that was stupid. > Please stop this cabal thing. This is exactly what I'm trying to do! > > Thanks, > > Mike > > - Original Message - > From: "Moshe Zadka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Really? no cabal?

2000-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000, Yossi Cohen wrote about "Really? no cabal?": > > You people were sure eager to deny a IGLU cabal. > > Way too eager...I think something is fishy here. > > Who is really in chagre? Come on, I've head from a > > good friend of mine t

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Mike Almogy
How do you know ? maybe he's on holiday or something ? OK, that was stupid. Please stop this cabal thing. Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: "Moshe Zadka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ben-Nes Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "ILUG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:18

Re: IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > I also got a sense of humor, but don't you think that it's time to cut the crap > and grow up? This thread is a total waste of time, effort and bandwidth, and it is >not even particluarly amusing. I completely agree. This thread has totally lost any

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Its the secret top israel linux agency that control the net (world) and > decide who will live and who will die, their previous name was Zikney Zion. Hey, how come everyone here try to pretend there is such a thing as the IGLU cabal? there is no suc

Re: burning linux CDs

2000-07-23 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Tzafrir! On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 07:25:36PM +0300, you wrote the following: > I was looking for a certain linux CD. I remember a few people offering to > burn CDs for ~ the cost , but searching the archives didn't yeald almost > any positive results (except for someone offering to burn RH6.2

Re: Really? no cabal?

2000-07-23 Thread Herouth Maoz
Nadav Har'El wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000, Yossi Cohen wrote about "Really? no cabal?": > > You people were sure eager to deny a IGLU cabal. > > Way too eager...I think something is fishy here. > > Who is really in chagre? Come on, I've head from a > > good friend of mine that thetre is a IGLU

Re: Really? no cabal?

2000-07-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Nadav Har'El wrote: > Ok, this thread has gone for some time now, but PLEASE, if you plan on > continuing, at least do us a favor and explain what the f*** you're talking > about? > What on earth is a "cabal"? I'm assuming you're not talking about a > capacitor :) > Consulting either http://www

Re: Really? no cabal?

2000-07-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Nadav Har'El wrote: > > Ok, this thread has gone for some time now, but PLEASE, if you plan on > continuing, at least do us a favor and explain what the f*** you're talking > about? > What on earth is a "cabal"? I'm assuming you're not talking about a > capacitor :) Consulting either http://www.

Re: áòðééï: p.s. (was: Re: Shutdown by a us er)

2000-07-23 Thread Shaul Karl
> Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > > > Quoth guy keren on Sat, Jul 22, 2000: > > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > > > > > > Or you can take the BSD approach: > > > > > > > > 1. Add users allowed to shutdown to some group (call it > > > > "operator"). > > > > 2. Make shutdown owned by

burning linux CDs

2000-07-23 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi all I was looking for a certain linux CD. I remember a few people offering to burn CDs for ~ the cost , but searching the archives didn't yeald almost any positive results (except for someone offering to burn RH6.2 a couple of monthes ago. I wouldn't mind maintaining a page of people willing

Re: Really? no cabal?

2000-07-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jul 23, 2000, Yossi Cohen wrote about "Really? no cabal?": > You people were sure eager to deny a IGLU cabal. > Way too eager...I think something is fishy here. > Who is really in chagre? Come on, I've head from a > good friend of mine that thetre is a IGLU canal. Ok, this thread has gon

Re: All hail Eris! (Was: Re: IGLU Cabal)

2000-07-23 Thread Mike Almogy
what ? we are no a cult ? Shit, now what i'm going to do with all the NT system Administrators i have kidnap ? I WAS planning to convert their religion by making them read all Microsoft bugs, but now it just seems pointless. Anyone what them ?? Mike (A.K.A prisoner number 347645 if the pol

Re: IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Yossi Cohen wrote: > > Hi! > I wanted to know whowhat is the IGLU cabal, and what exactly > they do. Also, if anyone could tell me who is the cabal. > > -- > Yossi Cohen > Linux -- Live Ffree or die! > > = > To unsubscribe, sen

Really? no cabal?

2000-07-23 Thread Yossi Cohen
You people were sure eager to deny a IGLU cabal. Way too eager...I think something is fishy here. Who is really in chagre? Come on, I've head from a good friend of mine that thetre is a IGLU canal. -- Yossi Cohen\ Linux -- live free or fdie! , ==

Re: SSH and Debian

2000-07-23 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Gaal! On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 02:05:54PM +0300, you wrote the following: > I need ssh1 functionality. > > Am I right that there is no official SSH or SSH clone for Debian? The non-us section of Debian has packages for ssh (which is actually OpenSSH). They work very well for me on many mach

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Its the secret top israel linux agency that control the net (world) and decide who will live and who will die, their previous name was Zikney Zion. But hush my friend and don't speak on them or your X server wont work any more :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've heard that there is something c

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Adam Morrison
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I've heard that there is something called the IGLU cabal, which controls > > > IGLU, and makes all decisions. Who is on that cabal? > > > > The people on the cabal include myself, me, moi, men'ya, and min. > > Marc,, stop harassing the poor fool. There is n

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I've heard that there is something called the IGLU cabal, which controls > > IGLU, and makes all decisions. Who is on that cabal? > > The people on the cabal include myself, me, moi, men'ya, and min. Marc,, stop haras

RE: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
Exactly. There is no cabal, and there was never any cabal. On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Chen Shapira wrote: > > > > I've heard that there is something called the IGLU cabal, > > which controls > > IGLU, and makes all decisions. Who is on that cabal? > > Few hints for the un-enlighted: > > You proba

Re: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Marc A. Volovic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've heard that there is something called the IGLU cabal, which controls > IGLU, and makes all decisions. Who is on that cabal? The people on the cabal include myself, me, moi, men'ya, and min. ¢éì¹»®&Þ±éݙ¨¥¶‰bžìb–·ª¹ë-–)îƊàŠ\"¶a{ +véì¹»®&ފ{azg¬±¨n‡rz î

RE: The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Chen Shapira
> I've heard that there is something called the IGLU cabal, > which controls > IGLU, and makes all decisions. Who is on that cabal? Few hints for the un-enlighted: You probably don't follow IGLU for long, but IGLU is a true Anarchy. No decisions are made. Ever. Really. Search the archives, ma

The IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread cohen
I've heard that there is something called the IGLU cabal, which controls IGLU, and makes all decisions. Who is on that cabal? -- Lior Cohen = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message

RSH.

2000-07-23 Thread Benji Selano
Hi... I seem to have a problem while remote sheling into a Redhat 6.2 box from solaris 2.6.. Rshell with a command does not work (Stalled), while Rlogin works fine... Anyone has any idea? Benji. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [E

Re: All hail Eris! (Was: Re: IGLU Cabal)

2000-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Ira Abramov wrote: > > > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Yossi Cohen wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > I wanted to know whowhat is the IGLU cabal, and what exactly > > > they do. Also, if anyone could tell me who is the cabal. > > > > what? > > > > there's no

Re: All hail Eris! (Was: Re: IGLU Cabal)

2000-07-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
You forgot to mention Thur, the programmers' god (may his machine never run out of semi infinite tape). Shachar Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Ira Abramov wrote: > > > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Yossi Cohen wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > I wanted to know whowhat is the IGLU cabal, an

All hail Eris! (Was: Re: IGLU Cabal)

2000-07-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Ira Abramov wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Yossi Cohen wrote: > > > Hi! > > I wanted to know whowhat is the IGLU cabal, and what exactly > > they do. Also, if anyone could tell me who is the cabal. > > what? > > there's no cabal. > The Internet Oracle has pondered your query, supplicant.

Re: Scanner

2000-07-23 Thread Gavrie Philipson
Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > Quoth Ishai Parasol on Sat, Jul 22, 2000: > > Can someone recommend a good scanner (and software) that works with > > RH6.2 ? > > Software: xvscan. However, IIRC, it's not free. Right. So, why not SANE? It works fine with many scanners. For example, I use a UMAX Astra

Re: IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Yossi Cohen wrote: > Hi! > I wanted to know whowhat is the IGLU cabal, and what exactly > they do. Also, if anyone could tell me who is the cabal. I'm sorry sir, you seem to be mistaken. There is no such thing as the IGLU cabal. -- Moshe Zadka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There i

RE: IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Chen Shapira
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Yossi Cohen wrote: > > > Hi! > > I wanted to know whowhat is the IGLU cabal, and what exactly > > they do. Also, if anyone could tell me who is the cabal. > > what? > > there's no cabal. Meetings and lectures and websites just form (or cast) themselves out of void b

Re: IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Ira Abramov
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Yossi Cohen wrote: > Hi! > I wanted to know whowhat is the IGLU cabal, and what exactly > they do. Also, if anyone could tell me who is the cabal. what? there's no cabal. -- Ira Abramov, GNU/Linux advocate. (@- member IGLU, Israeli Linux Users Group //\

IGLU Cabal

2000-07-23 Thread Yossi Cohen
Hi! I wanted to know whowhat is the IGLU cabal, and what exactly they do. Also, if anyone could tell me who is the cabal. -- Yossi Cohen Linux -- Live Ffree or die! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word

Win98 Vs. Linus (fwd)

2000-07-23 Thread Shlomi Fish
This is a reply from a person who sent a person through me to the list. Shlomi Fish -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 05:34:27 +0300 (IDT) From: Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Win98 Vs. Linus (fwd) ---

Re: C++ today (was "Re: GTK 1.3.1")

2000-07-23 Thread Adam Morrison
> > If you > > simply write in the documentation "don't use that member", intellegient > > programmers won't use it. And unintellegient programmers will make stupid > > mistakes no matter how you try to protect them. > > For example, one of the OSes I use defines jmp_buf as: > > struct __jmp_bu

Re: Linux ddd debugger for C

2000-07-23 Thread Omer Musaev
Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > You need to compile the program with debug info. I think the option is "-g". > > You also probably don't want to use optimizations on debug code. > you can use optimisations, however, you"ll want to understand optimisations techniques to debug optimised code. using op

fdisk

2000-07-23 Thread Jonathan Ben-Avraham
Hi, fdisk detects different IDE disk geometries for the same disk depending on whether it is attached to IDE1 or IDE2. Is there an explanation for this somewhere? Regards, - yba EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA~. .~ TclTek Ltd. =}-

Re: Linux ddd debugger for C

2000-07-23 Thread Omer Musaev
Mike Almogy wrote: > > Hi list. > > I installed ddd v3.2 and ddd v3.1 and in both of them i can not see the > source code of my program. > I wrote a simple program called hello.c , compiled it with gcc -Wall > hello.c -o hello and then tried to look at it in the ddd. > > I can execute the progr

Re: Linux ddd debugger for C

2000-07-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
You need to compile the program with debug info. I think the option is "-g". You also probably don't want to use optimizations on debug code. Shachar Mike Almogy wrote: > Hi list. > > I installed ddd v3.2 and ddd v3.1 and in both of them i can not see the > source code of

RE: Linux ddd debugger for C

2000-07-23 Thread Avital, Shlomo
when you compile add the flag -g -Original Message- From: Mike Almogy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 11:53 AM To: Linux-IL Subject: Linux ddd debugger for C Hi list. I installed ddd v3.2 and ddd v3.1 and in both of them i can not see the source code of my progra

Re: áòðééï: p.s. (was: Re: Shutdown by a us er)

2000-07-23 Thread Omer Musaev
Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > Quoth guy keren on Sat, Jul 22, 2000: > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > > > > Or you can take the BSD approach: > > > > > > 1. Add users allowed to shutdown to some group (call it > > > "operator"). > > > 2. Make shutdown owned by user root, group ope

Linux ddd debugger for C

2000-07-23 Thread Mike Almogy
Hi list. I installed ddd v3.2 and ddd v3.1 and in both of them i can not see the source code of my program. I wrote a simple program called hello.c , compiled it with gcc -Wall hello.c -o hello and then tried to look at it in the ddd. I can execute the program but can't view the source code. If