Re: Debian in Israel

2000-12-13 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Alex Shnitman wrote: > > We now have a mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; I've subscribed > those who have contacted me. Anyone who's interested in the subject is > welcome to join. > > Can you send me some info about it so I can add it to the list of our mailing-lists. Plea

RE: APM

2000-12-13 Thread Manor G.
Hey i got this poweroff problem too, havent found a way to fix it yet. about ur 'weird' messages at boot time, do you use modules? if not, i suggest you rebuild your kernel without modules support, it should take care of the annoying messages. manor. On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, David Hananel wrote:

Re: monitors for BIOS hardware monitors

2000-12-13 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Ariel Biener wrote: > If any of you knows a prog for Linux that monitors BIOSs hardware > monitors (electricity, temperature, ventilators rpm and such) and can show > a graphical display of them, and/or can be programmed to take specific > actions (triggers) upon specific e

Re: ADSL questions

2000-12-13 Thread Eran Tromer
Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ordering ADSL, and I'd like to know if it's posssible to run a web > > server using that connection. > the real questions may be: > 1 - Is the upload connection Bezeq will give fast enough? According to an official Bezeq document dated 2000/11/16, the upstrea

monitors for BIOS hardware monitors

2000-12-13 Thread Ariel Biener
Hi, If any of you knows a prog for Linux that monitors BIOSs hardware monitors (electricity, temperature, ventilators rpm and such) and can show a graphical display of them, and/or can be programmed to take specific actions (triggers) upon specific events, let me know. --Ariel -- Ariel

RE: ADSL questions

2000-12-13 Thread solomon
On 13-Dec-2000 Oded Arbel wrote: > A couple of questions for those of us who has an ADSL connection to the > world : > Is it possible to run a server on this connection ? > can you easily detect your external IP from linux ? I don't know about the server (although I don't see why not), but the IP

RE: APM

2000-12-13 Thread David Hananel
I configured everything well... I made also: dmesg|grep -i apm and I got the right answer!! :-P Maby it is related to problems with my modules? cause when I compiled the modules I had some errors, and everytime I start linux, I get the messages: "depmod: *** unresolved simboles in /lib/modules.

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander V. Karelin
Dear ppl! I think that the core (oops...) of the question is very simple: There is a difference between the Operating System as a Software to Hardware interface, and the Operating System as a User to Software to Hardware interface. It is a fact though, that there are two major schools of operati

Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander V. Karelin
Dear Alex (+ppl) Oops... Made a mistake - meant mv ./rc1.d/K49someservice ./rc1.d/S33someservice :) Ofcourse we need a shutter to be there. As for GUI stuff - if You intent to do something on/with Linux, it is better to learn by doing. And GUI stuff is not doing... I do resort to GUI tools from

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oded Arbel
- Original Message - From: "Adi Stav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > But Linux is not a brand. Most of the Linux-based distributions > include the Linux kernel as it is, or with relatively negligible > changes. Linus has neither the power nor the desire to influence > "userland" applications. It

RE: RENT (Was: Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0)

2000-12-13 Thread Chen Shapira
> This message is not intended to many people here who do give > great answers, > but in hope to make this list a little more interesting. Why would telling people to rtfm would make the list more interesting? Anyway, this list is intended as (among others) linux suppot, linux support means h

Re: RENT (Was: Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0)

2000-12-13 Thread Guy Cohen
P.S. back to the Me thread Guy Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aharon Schkolnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > How do I correct this ? > > > > Use the run-level editor in the control-panel. > > Like it or not (flames are welcome, private

Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0

2000-12-13 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Alexander! On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 04:42:46PM +0200, you wrote the following: > Using RL setups is quite dangerous... It is far better to simply move the > links... Like: > > mv ./rc1.d/K49someservice ./rc2.d/S33someservice This is not a good idea, because you want to leave the K link too,

Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Alexander V. Karelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Using RL setups is quite dangerous... Can you tell me why? I don't like those GUI tools myself, but for someone who does not know exactly what he/she is supposed to do, it is better to rely on the control-panel and hope it will do everything

RENT (Was: Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0)

2000-12-13 Thread Guy Cohen
Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aharon Schkolnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > How do I correct this ? > > Use the run-level editor in the control-panel. Like it or not (flames are welcome, privately), this list is getting to sound more and more like a *windows help desk*. WTF

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why aren't they? Unix, BSD and SysV are/were actual branded OSs that > were sold under that brand, no less than Red Hat or HP/UX are now. I suppose UNIX was a brand when it was controlled by a single company and was immediately associated with that company.

Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander V. Karelin
Dear Oleg! Using RL setups is quite dangerous... It is far better to simply move the links... Like: mv ./rc1.d/K49someservice ./rc2.d/S33someservice It has the same effect, but is cleaner and safer. On 13 Dec 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Aharon Schkolnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Though the whole point of "Red Hat Linux" was to make the great unwashed > brand aware of Linux and that brand was Red Hat. Bob Young talked explicitly and eloquently about branding as a part of RH strategy in "Open Sources". The expectation

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Adi Stav
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 03:51:26PM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But Linux is not a brand. > > No, it isn't. Neither is UNIX. Nor are BSD or SysV. Red Hat is. HP/UX > is. What has it got to do with OS? Why aren't they? Unix, BSD and SysV are/were ac

Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Aharon Schkolnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I see that named is NOT being started at boot time. .. > There are no S files ! > > Any idea why this might be ? RH assumes you don't want to run a DNS server on your box by default, which sounds reasonable to me. > How do I correct this ? Us

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But Linux is not a brand. > > No, it isn't. Neither is UNIX. Nor are BSD or SysV. Red Hat is. HP/UX > is. What has it got to do with OS? Though the whole point of "Red Hat Linux" was to make the great unwashed brand aware o

Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0

2000-12-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On 13 Dec 2000, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > I just installed RedHat 7.0 from scratch. > I included the package bind-8.2.2_P5-25. IIRC bind-8.2.2_P7 is out and corrected some security bug. Update! > I see that named is NOT being started at boot time. > I see the following files: > > /rc.d/init

Re: Named Startup on RedHat 7.0

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander V. Karelin
Dear Aharon! Named has to usages... If You're using the caching nameserver, than named shouldn't be running, and this is fine. But if You're willing to do some real resolving on that machine, here is the list of runlevels for named: /rc3.d/S55named /rc4.d/S55named /rc5.d/S55named On 13 Dec 200

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But Linux is not a brand. No, it isn't. Neither is UNIX. Nor are BSD or SysV. Red Hat is. HP/UX is. What has it got to do with OS? > Most of the Linux-based distributions include the Linux kernel as it > is, or with relatively negligible changes. Linus ha

Named Startup on RedHat 7.0

2000-12-13 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
I just installed RedHat 7.0 from scratch. I included the package bind-8.2.2_P5-25. I see that named is NOT being started at boot time. I see the following files: /rc.d/init.d/named /rc.d/rc0.d/K45named /rc.d/rc1.d/K45named /rc.d/rc2.d/K45named /rc.d/rc3.d/K45named /rc.d/rc4.d/K45named /rc.d/rc5.

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Boaz Rymland
Adi Stav wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:46:53PM +0200, Boaz Rymland wrote: > > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > > > > With the current amount of differences between various linux distros, > > > calling each of them "operting system" is more correct. > > > > I wouldn't join your terminology. > >

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Adi Stav
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:46:53PM +0200, Boaz Rymland wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > > With the current amount of differences between various linux distros, > > calling each of them "operting system" is more correct. > > I wouldn't join your terminology. > IMO, > * Linux is the Operating

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Oded Arbel
- Original Message - > > > I prefer to say that Linux is the operating system, RedHat is the > distribution, 6.2 is the distribution version, and Kde or Gnome are the > desktop environments. You should be able to use both Gnome and Kde, but not > concurrently, unless you have several moni

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Boaz Rymland
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Adi Stav wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:45AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > > > > Now. let's see if I got it right: > > > > RedHat is the operating system, and the > > > > KDE, GNOME... are the envyroments - > > > > Which means: I'll have the

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Adi Stav wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:45AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > > > Now. let's see if I got it right: > > > RedHat is the operating system, and the > > > KDE, GNOME... are the envyroments - > > > Which means: I'll have the Linux Redhat 6.2 > > > and will be ab

Postgres support for the Hebrew charset

2000-12-13 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
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Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Adi Stav
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:51:45AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > > Now. let's see if I got it right: > > RedHat is the operating system, and the > > KDE, GNOME... are the envyroments - > > Which means: I'll have the Linux Redhat 6.2 > > and will be able to function on several > > envyroments. > > >

Re: Debian in Israel

2000-12-13 Thread Alex Shnitman
We now have a mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; I've subscribed those who have contacted me. Anyone who's interested in the subject is welcome to join. -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- http://alex

Re: Me

2000-12-13 Thread Shaul Karl
> Thanks 4 everything, man > I have a lot to ask u, and I am wondering > wether to email you my Qs, or to wait till > I see you, or - at least talk to you - > Which might take generations... > If you have a lot of questions, I suggest you post some of them and we will see where are we getting

Re: Debian in Israel

2000-12-13 Thread Shaul Karl
> Hi, > > I've registered the domain debian.org.il, and I'd like to gauge the > interest for creating a local Debian community. The goal would be > Debian support in Israel, advocacy, experience sharing and the like. > If you're interested in anything like that, please send me e-mail. If > there

Re: OT: xemacs Q.

2000-12-13 Thread Omer Musaev
Felix Shvaiger wrote: > Hi, All. > > I want to use tabs (not N spaces, but TAB characters) > for left indentation in my c/c++ code (C++ mode of emacs). > How I do that ? (setq indent-tabs-mode t) > xemacs support gnu coding style (spaces at the > beginning of the lines and tabs/spaces inside l

ADSL questions

2000-12-13 Thread Oded Arbel
A couple of questions for those of us who has an ADSL connection to the world : Is it possible to run a server on this connection ? can you easily detect your external IP from linux ? I'm asking this because I currently use an ISDN connection with dyndns to provide some web services, and I have s

OT: xemacs Q.

2000-12-13 Thread Felix Shvaiger
Hi, All. I want to use tabs (not N spaces, but TAB characters) for left indentation in my c/c++ code (C++ mode of emacs). How I do that ? xemacs support gnu coding style (spaces at the beginning of the lines and tabs/spaces inside lines), but I don't want this feature (it's like M$ - it knows wha