RE: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Tal, Shachar
> -Original Message- > From: Nadav Har'El [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 10:38 PM > To: Oleg Kobets > Cc: Zvi Har'El; My Own Private List > Subject: Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued > > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2003, Oleg Kobets wrote about "Re: Redhat 9 > slowne

RE: "GNU/Linux Compatible" Initiative

2003-11-09 Thread Tal, Shachar
Hi Amichai, I believe w3c.org has an HTML/XHTML/strict etc. validator online, so this can be verified online by users. In the event someone wants to post a rating of Israeli sites, one just needs to write a 5-liner perl/python script and beautify the results :) Shachar > -Original Message---

Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 11:16:27PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: I wonder whether such a tool exists for Linux userspace as well. oprofile, http://oprofile.sf.net. Forgot to mention, oprofile does kernel profiling as well. It's the best thing since sliced bre

Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 11:16:27PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > I wonder whether such a tool exists for Linux userspace as well. > > oprofile, http://oprofile.sf.net. Forgot to mention, oprofile does kernel profiling as well. It's the best thing since sliced bread. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http

Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 11:03:53PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > There was a profiling tool for Solaris kernel modules that was > nonintrusive to the applicaion's code. The way it worked was by > bombarding the kernel with interrupts, and checking the stack backtrace > each time to see what i

Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 10:37:54PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: > The 3.5 second difference of course cannot be attributed to slow dynamic > linking - it's the /lib/tls that suck. My guess is that some common C > function that hspell uses, perhaps even the stdio, strlen(), or who knows > what, is mu

Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Nov 09, 2003, Oleg Kobets wrote about "Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued": Oh, well. But the question remains, why is it slower ? Continuing the Redhat 9 saga: I previously thought that the slowdown had something to do with the dynamic linking slowdown. I no lo

Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003, Oleg Kobets wrote about "Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued": > Oh, well. > But the question remains, why is it slower ? Continuing the Redhat 9 saga: I previously thought that the slowdown had something to do with the dynamic linking slowdown. I no longer think so - I think

"GNU/Linux Compatible" Initiative

2003-11-09 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi Linuxers, How about starting, through Hamakor, some kind of a rating / certification system for Israeli Web sites to check if they are GNU/Linux / Open Source friendly. I mean, can be viewed with GNU/Linux tools (like Konqueror, Mozilla etc.) without any special changes. Maybe Web sites

Ride to the Haifux' "Linux Day" from Tel Aviv

2003-11-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
Can anyobdy give me a ride from Tel Aviv for the Haifux Linux Day? I live in Ramat Aviv Gimel and so can meet at the junction of Keren Kayemeth with either Haifa Road or the Ayalon. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish

Re: recommended pda/camera/cellphone linux capable

2003-11-09 Thread Orna Agmon
Dear abcde123, You expect us to identify ourselves and answer you, but you treat us like computers, identifying by something which is meaningless enough to use as a password. Why do you expect people to read your email, and answer you politely like a person? Orna Agmon. On Sun, 9 Nov 200

Re: Where oh where has cygnus gone?

2003-11-09 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know where has cygnus gone? Cygwin is still alive, but the > company doesn't seem to have shown any activity of late. Their web > server is not online (cygnus.com?) The company seems to have gone > under. You remind me of all those surveys

Re: Where oh where has cygnus gone?

2003-11-09 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:31:59PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Does anyone know where has cygnus gone? Cygwin is still alive, but the > company doesn't seem to have shown any activity of late. Their web > server is not online (cygnus.com?) The company seems to have gone under. Didn't they m

Re: Where oh where has cygnus gone?

2003-11-09 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Does anyone know where has cygnus gone? Cygwin is still alive, but the > company doesn't seem to have shown any activity of late. Their web > server is not online (cygnus.com?) The company seems to have gone under. > > Does that mean that the dream o

Where oh where has cygnus gone?

2003-11-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Does anyone know where has cygnus gone? Cygwin is still alive, but the company doesn't seem to have shown any activity of late. Their web server is not online (cygnus.com?) The company seems to have gone under. Does that mean that the dream of running a services company was just that?

recommended pda/camera/cellphone linux capable

2003-11-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey Guys, I'm looking for a recommendation regarding a PDA/Cellphone combo preferably with a digital camera, now I want it either to run linux natively or linux capable (like iPqa which apparently its possible to load in with linux). I need it basically for everything when i'm away from my comput

Video in overlay mode

2003-11-09 Thread Boris Zingerman
Hi Can someone give me some example/link to decent documentation how to program video for Linux in overlay mode ? Thanks in advance Boris. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message

Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Oleg Kobets
Oh, well. But the question remains, why is it slower ? - Original Message - From: "Zvi Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Oleg Kobets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "My Own Private List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 8:42 AM Subject: Re: R

Live CD in Russian

2003-11-09 Thread David Howard
Hi to all. A colleague teaching programming in a Jerusalem high school has asked me to get him a try-out version of Linux. He's a total newbie (never seen Linux in any form), has excellent Hebrew, so-so English and native Russian. Obviously a live CD is step one. For Hebrew I'll give him Kinneret

RE: GUI language for beginners

2003-11-09 Thread Iftach Hyams
>> > Python,perl,tcl/tk,qt,gtk+ Are you looking for a language or a toolkit ? You have FLTK, vxWindows and GLUI (over OpenGL). This e-mail message has been sent by Elbit Systems Ltd. and is for the use of the intended recipients only. The message may contain privileged or confidenti

Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Tal, Shachar
Actually, my first guess of TLS would not spell security (as in Transport Level Security), but would spell favoring-SMP (as in Thread-Level Storage). I suppose you /lib/tls is optimized for SMP and /lib/i686 for UP. Of course, I could be wrong, as this is written way too early in the morning. Sha

Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Zvi Har'El
More in info gcc: Thread-local storage (TLS) is a mechanism by which variables are allocated such that there is one instance of the variable per extant thread. The run-time model GCC uses to implement this originates in the IA-64 processor-specific ABI, but has since been migrated to other pro

Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Baruch Even
* Nadav Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031108 22:50]: > One thing I noticed is that when I do "ldd" to hspell (or cat, or anything), > I don't get /lib/i686/... like I got in Redhat 8 - instead I get some > /lib/tls/ What is that? setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /lib/i686 made > hspell very speedy agai