Telux Meeting: Herouth Maoz on GIMP 2.2

2005-03-16 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all! On Sunday, 20 March, 2005, the Tel Aviv Linux club will once again gather to hear the presentation of Herouth Maoz about GIMP 2.2. The presentation will take place at 18:30 at Schreiber 007, Tel Aviv University. GIMP is a sophisticated, open-source image manipulation program for UNIX s

Math optimizations in... Java?

2005-03-16 Thread Ira Abramov
Howdie ladies (and gentlemen), I just got a call from a guy who's running a "highly optimized math app in Java" on xeon (I didn't know JVM's had strong VFPUs...) and just got himself an Itanium to get better performance. He was very surprised to get 25% of the speed on the new platform and wondere

Re: Math optimizations in... Java?

2005-03-16 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Well, I know of at least one place doing maths on Java. They believe throwing a BIG pile of machines at a given problem. Itaniums, vis-a-vis-performance, are not such a great find. For some, very specific, tasks with LARGE in-cache data sets they are useful, but mostly a waste of cache. Cash, I

Re: Math optimizations in... Java?

2005-03-16 Thread Omer Zak
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 13:03 +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: > ... "highly optimized math app > in Java" Looks to me like oxymoron. I'll be generous and give credit to the guy for neglecting to tell you that he uses JNI and a native math library for his inner loops. If he moved the math library as it is

Re: Math optimization in... Java?

2005-03-16 Thread Sharon Dagan
Hi All, Putting the JIT aside for a moment, consider an arbitrary C/C++ application optimized for Xeon - will it run faster, unconditionally, on Itanium? I guess that 'to get better performance on Itanium' this guy should get an optimized JVM *for* Itanium. In Java, performance varies dramatically

Re: Math optimization in... Java?

2005-03-16 Thread voguemaster
Sharon Dagan wrote: Hi All, Putting the JIT aside for a moment, consider an arbitrary C/C++ application optimized for Xeon - will it run faster, unconditionally, on Itanium? Describe "optimized for Xeon". What extensions are you referring to ? (and please don't say SIMD). I guess that 'to get bet

Re: Math optimizations in... Java?

2005-03-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Howdie ladies (and gentlemen), > > I just got a call from a guy who's running a "highly optimized math app > in Java" on xeon (I didn't know JVM's had strong VFPUs...) and just got > himself an Itanium to get better performance. He was very surprised to >

Re: Math optimization in... Java?

2005-03-16 Thread guy keren
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, voguemaster wrote: > > Just my $0.02: IBM's implementation of the JVM is *not* optimized for > > Itanium (and probably won't be). It is optimized, however, for other 64bit > > processors such as AMD64 and Power4/5. > > > > That's a different kind of optimization. In any case,