VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, VMWare next week plans to give away VMWare (GSX version, not the WS or ESX). Link: http://news.com.com/VMware+to+make+server+product+free/2100-1012_3-6034615.html?tag=nefd.top Thanks, Hetz To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 01:06:10PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi, > > VMWare next week plans to give away VMWare (GSX version, not the WS > or ESX). So? free is not open. Xen is both (and yes, it can run Windows). I wish VMWare would open up the code under a GPL compatible, then we could reall

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 13:23 +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 01:06:10PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Hi, > > > > VMWare next week plans to give away VMWare (GSX version, not the WS > > or ESX). > > So? free is not open. Xen is both (and yes, it can run Windows). I > wish

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread guy keren
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > So? free is not open.Xen is both (and yes, it can run Windows). I > > wish VMWare would open up the code under a GPL compatible, then we > > could really have fun :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Muli > > Last time I checked, with no hardware VT extensions, Xen

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, I read a bit more. They won't release the GSX product as a freeware, but actually will release something which will be called "VMWare Server" which is something quite similar to GSX. > > So? free is not open. Xen is both (and yes, it can run Windows). I > > wish VMWare would open up the code

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
> Last time I checked, with no hardware VT extensions, Xen cannot run > Windows. > Am I wrong? No, Xen does require VT (or AMD's SVM) to run Windows. But VT enabled processors are now available, and SVM will be available soon. Cheers, Muli -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org | http://mulix.l

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
> You can't run Windows from Xen today, unless you either have an > engineering sample of Intel's Core with VT enabled (the shipping > version has VT disabled, and that includes the new Apple ProBook or > the new IMac), or you're willing to wait few months until Intel will > release the 'enabled' v

Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Ori Idan
I have tried to logged in to my Debian unstable machine using regular user from gdm and got a message "System bootup in progress" after clicking Ok I returned to the login screen. I tried logging in without X (Ctrl-Alt-F1) when logging in as root, got the same message and password prompt and logg

Re: Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Baruch Even
Ori Idan wrote: > I have tried to logged in to my Debian unstable machine using regular > user from gdm and got > > a message "System bootup in progress" after clicking Ok I returned to > the login screen. At the start of the boot process the Debian initscripts will create a file /etc/nologin, th

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: VMware for free": > That's wrong, people have been able to buy VT enabled processos. Even > if they are scarce, pretty soon (weeks, a few months at most) they'll > be available everywhere. For the clueless among us (like myself), can you pleas

Re: Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 06:47:55PM +0200, Ori Idan wrote: > I have tried to logged in to my Debian unstable machine using regular > user from gdm and got > > a message "System bootup in progress" after clicking Ok I returned to > the login screen. > > I tried logging in without X (Ctrl-Alt-F1) wh

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 07:18:24PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: > For the clueless among us (like myself), can you please say a few words, or > recommend a link, about what is this "VT", and what does running windows have > to do with it? You got me curious. Briefly: the Intel x86 architecture is n

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 18:01 +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > You can't run Windows from Xen today, unless you either have an > > engineering sample of Intel's Core with VT enabled (the shipping > > version has VT disabled, and that includes the new Apple ProBook or > > the new IMac), or you're wil

Re: VMware for free

2006-02-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 12:39:53AM +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > I doubt that we'll see VT/Pacifica going into full swing before 07. > (Especially on AMDs, as AMD just started to port Xen to support > Pacifica) Xen includes SVM support. You need SVM HW which is not generally available yet, but re

Re: Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Oron Peled
On Friday, 3 בFebruary 2006 19:08, Baruch Even wrote: > Ori Idan wrote: > > a message "System bootup in progress" after clicking Ok I returned to > > the login screen. > At the start of the boot process the Debian initscripts will create a > file /etc/nologin, this message is shown when you try to

Re: Problems while logging in to Debian unstable

2006-02-03 Thread Ori Idan
Oron Peled wrote: >On Friday, 3 בFebruary 2006 19:08, Baruch Even wrote: > > >>Ori Idan wrote: >> >> >>>a message "System bootup in progress" after clicking Ok I returned to >>>the login screen. >>> >>> >>At the start of the boot process the Debian initscripts will create a >>file /etc