On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 16:26 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Omer Zak wrote:
> >
> > Shachar (Lingnu CEO): can you open a PayPal account (or equivalent) to
> > collect money from private people? Or do you have another mechanism to
> > deal with, say, 300 small payments?
> >
> >
> PayPal is fine. The main problem is what happens if too few people say
> "I will"? How do you deal with returning everyone's money? There is also
> the bitch of issuing invoices to everyone involved - not a trivial task!
1. In the following, you outlined possible stages for the project - bug
fixes; edit control (non-RTF). In this staged approach, you can start
the next stage once there are enough funds for the stage.
Also, in the PayPal donation page you can state that unused funds will
go to Hamakor to fund other projects.
2. Assuming that not everyone wants or needs a paper invoice, you could
just print the invoices but actually send them only to those who request
them.
> > Shachar (again, Lingnu CEO): seems that we might pull this off - so we
> > need more realistic estimates of the project cost. What budget do you
> > need to cover the cost of reviewing bugs, edit control development and
> > RTF edit control development?
> >
> I think we should leave RTF out of it right now. It does not add much to
> the end user experience, and is probably a pain to implement.
Nevertheless, I suggest to plan also this. If people still want it,
they'll fund also this part of the project.
> As for
> edit - I'm supposed to be working on a project for ISOC that will
> implement a BiDi edit control (not in Wine), and hopfully, once that
> project is done, there will be enough reusable code to reduce the cost
> of this element. At the moment, it is hard to estimate.
Make a worst case estimate (if you can't reuse the ISOC code).
> Please note that even without edit control, even just with #2 support,
> MSO will work.
> > With this figure, we can plan on 2-stage project, each stage to be
> > budgetted separately:
> > stage 1 - plan the project and make estimates.
> > stage 2 - actually execute.
> > If the output of stage 1 is made publicly available, then maybe parts of
> > stage 2 can be performed by outside volunteers with their own sources of
> > funding.
> >
> No problem with that. At the moment, the tasks are not really divisable.
> Once #1 and #2 are done, hopefully, that will improve.
OK. So now we need to raise 19K NIS to get #1, #2 done. And then we'll
know what will be the cost estimate for #3, #4 and optionally #5. Is
this the situation?
I suggest that people and corporations donate 35NIS/seat for #1,#2 and
put aside additional 85NIS/seat for #3,#4,#5.
(I took into account 10NIS per transaction to cover administrative
costs.)
I do not see myself as a Wine user, but to put some money where my big
mouth is, I'll donate 35NIS once there is a way to donate to this
project (without putting aside the additional 85NIS).
--- Omer
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