this is WAY OT, but i thought i should share this with this list, because i 
know there are people here that travel to the united states from time to 
time, not always for work purposes.

i am STILL in Israel. i was planned to departure more then a month ago, and it 
seems that leaving the country is NOT as simple as some of you may think.
if you plan to go for a little trip, even as a tourist, with the full honest 
intention to come back after a few weeks, you will actually need to provide 
solid proofs for your intentions.. that includes :

* a letter from your current employer stating that you have a current place of 
employment in Israel, and that your employer states that you have your job 
safe and secure until you come back. (letter must state the length of the 
trip as well.)

* pay slips. in many cases, the latest will do. i saw people at the embassy 
that were asked for 3-6.

* a bank statement that proves you can afford your trip and expenses while you 
are on U.S soil.

last week, i've spent almost 4 hours at the embassy waiting for an interview, 
and almost 30 appliers before me got DECLINED ! most of them, young people 
that just got out of the army, and wanted to go for a trip, but there were 
also married couples, a business man (independent) that needed to go on a 
business trip, and even 2 senior citizens. (what are they gonna do, 
immigrate??).

just though this info might come in handy for some of you, in case you 
*thought* to take a brake, and go for a trip to the land of (un)limited 
possibilities.

BTW, this is old news, but very much related :
http://www.whatsup.org.il/article.php?sid=159

(both applications ended up being approoved.)

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