RE: Snort - iptables addon

2003-06-30 Thread Tzahi Fadida
check out Hogwash at http://hogwash.sourceforge.net/ never tried it, but it is a nice idea. * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html > -Orig

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-06-30 Thread Katriel Traum
You might also want to have a look at snort_inline from the HoneyNet project. Katriel On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 02:46:07AM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote: > check out Hogwash at http://hogwash.sourceforge.net/ > never tried it, but it is a nice idea. > > * - * - * > Tzahi Fadida > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-06-30 Thread Oleg Kobets
Yeah, look for PSAD, it is a an addon for snort that modifies iptables automaticly in run-time :-) Oleg. - Original Message - From: "Mycroft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:14 AM Subject: Snort - iptables addon > Hello, > Have anyone heard of

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 02:14:12AM +0300, Mycroft wrote: > Hello, > Have anyone heard of/used an snort add-on that could manage iptables firewall > in responce to a specific network events...like portscans or DOS attacks? What happens if I spoof a portscan from a different address? Do you block i

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Mycroft
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 10:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: TC>What happens if I spoof a portscan from a different address? Do you TC>block it? Now what was the IP of your DNS server? TC> That's what the "preprocessor portscan2-ignorehosts:" and "preprocessor portscan-ignorehosts:" sections in the /etc/s

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 02:43:01PM +0300, Mycroft wrote: > On Tuesday 01 July 2003 10:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > TC>What happens if I spoof a portscan from a different address? Do you > TC>block it? Now what was the IP of your DNS server? > TC> > That's what the "preprocessor portscan2-ignorehos

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 14:43, Mycroft wrote: > On Tuesday 01 July 2003 10:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > TC>What happens if I spoof a portscan from a different address? Do you > TC>block it? Now what was the IP of your DNS server? > TC> > That's what the "preprocessor portscan2-ignorehosts:" and "pr

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Mycroft
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 15:18, Aviram Jenik wrote: AJ> AJ>(if my irony went undetected, I would really recommend against this AJ>hair-triggered blocking system) AJ> Hmm, I am a big fan of constructive feedback. Don't we all? AJ>"Idle scan" will actually work quite nicely here (I'm sure one of the

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Mycroft
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 15:11, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: TC>And suppose I don't really need the results of those scan? And this is TC>all done just to make you block some computers? TC> TC>What traffic can someone make you drop? TC> What harm could that do? I do realize that you are right about the pot

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Mycroft wrote: Well I'm not securing a corporate web server here, most probably if i were, I'd choose other means of security responce. Leaving it to professionals is always a good idea :)). This box is my networked workstation at home, and i don't have open server ports. I'm merely dealing wit

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread josh
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Aviram Jenik wrote: > "Idle scan" will actually work quite nicely here (I'm sure one of the servers > written above has its idle moments), but that's not the way I would approach > it as an attacker. > Your IDS will not block a simple connect scan (AFAIR snort does not save > p

RE: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Tzahi Fadida
L PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Snort - iptables addon > > > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Aviram Jenik wrote: > > > "Idle scan" will actually work quite nicely here (I'm sure one of the servers > > written above has its idle moments), but that's no

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: Snort - iptables addon": > The bottom line is this - if you have no open source, why do you care > whether you are scanned? Paranoids (like me, for example) use several lines of defense. For example, here are 3 lines of de

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 15:58, Mycroft wrote: > [snip] > This box is my networked workstation at home, and i > don't have open server ports. I'm merely dealing with a number of script > kiddies that think scanning and DOSing people they meet on IRC channels > makes them all-powerful. [snip] > howe

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Mycroft
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 16:35, Shachar Shemesh wrote: SS> SS>The bottom line is this - if you have no open source, why do you care SS>whether you are scanned? SS>This mail brought to you by the person responsible for Check Point not SS>sporting any easy-to-configure automatic retaliation system,

Re: Snort - iptables addon

2003-07-01 Thread Mycroft
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 18:04, Nadav Har'El wrote: NH>Paranoids (like me, for example) use several lines of defense. NH> NH>For example, here are 3 lines of defense: That's exactly what I used (and use) before my paranoia progressed and i started messing up with NIDS as a fourth line of defense