Re: low-level formatting - done?

2005-08-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Amos Shapira wrote: Hi, Following the discussion about how it's impossible to do low-level format for IDE drives, I bought a new drive, installed the system on it and left the old drive alone. Mostly for curiosity, I ran "smartctl -t long /dev/hdb" on the old drive but getting back to the comp

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-03 Thread Peter
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Peter wrote: Afaik modern drives do the mapping silently using spare sectors in each track. You get bad blocks when the drive runs out of spare sectors. It seems that this is not exactly correct. Modern drives do automatic remapping if and only if

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-03 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Peter wrote: Afaik modern drives do the mapping silently using spare sectors in each track. You get bad blocks when the drive runs out of spare sectors. It seems that this is not exactly correct. Modern drives do automatic remapping if and only if they managed to correctly read the data once

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-03 Thread Skliarouk Arieh
Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/05, Ilya Konstantinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shouldn't modern drives do it automatically? From what I read, every modern drive comes with some spare sectors to allow migrating data from damaged sectors. There's also a S.M.A.R.T statistics value (ch

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-02 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 09:03:07PM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > On Tuesday 02 August 2005 12:48, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > > I found that they had a disk tools... > > BTW, it was free > > Free of charge... (or did it had the source with some FOSS license :-) Free of change as in not $89. Geof

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-02 Thread Oron Peled
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 12:48, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > I found that they had a disk tools... > BTW, it was free Free of charge... (or did it had the source with some FOSS license :-) -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] h

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-02 Thread amos
On 8/1/05, Ilya Konstantinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shouldn't modern drives do it automatically? From what I read, every > modern drive comes with some spare sectors to allow migrating data from > damaged sectors. There's also a S.M.A.R.T statistics value (check with > your 'smartctl' utility

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-02 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:23:28PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: > On 8/2/05, Yedidyah Bar-David > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would still be interested in an answer to your question. > > I know (and used) such tools for SCSI disks, not IDE. > > Found it at grc.com. > See the reply to the questi

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-02 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 07:23:28PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: > Found it at grc.com. > See the reply to the question titled "Can SpinRite low-level format my > IDE, EIDE, or SCSI drive?" at http://grc.com/sr/faq.htm: I recently had a similar problem with an IDE drive from Seagate. It had one bad s

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-02 Thread Amos Shapira
On 8/2/05, Yedidyah Bar-David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would still be interested in an answer to your question. > I know (and used) such tools for SCSI disks, not IDE. Found it at grc.com. See the reply to the question titled "Can SpinRite low-level format my IDE, EIDE, or SCSI drive?" at ht

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-01 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 09:01:55AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: > On 8/1/05, Karasik, Vitaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > According to e2fsck manpage, you should run fsck -cc (man e2fsck) for > > marking bad blocks. > > I haven't tried this. > > That's not low-level format - what it does is to tel

RE: low-level formatting?

2005-08-01 Thread Tzahi Fadida
mean there were a lot of replacements in that area of reading. Regards, tzahi. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amos Shapira > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:02 AM > To: linux-il > Subject: Re: low-level format

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-08-01 Thread Amos Shapira
On 8/1/05, Karasik, Vitaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to e2fsck manpage, you should run fsck -cc (man e2fsck) for > marking bad blocks. > I haven't tried this. That's not low-level format - what it does is to tell the filesystem code how to avoid bad blocks. But if I want to install, e

RE: low-level formatting?

2005-08-01 Thread Karasik, Vitaly
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amos Shapira > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 3:04 AM > To: linux-il > Subject: low-level formatting? > > Hello, > > Running "badblocks -n" on my hard drive I found a couple > hundred of bad blocks

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-07-31 Thread Peter
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, Running "badblocks -n" on my hard drive I found a couple hundred of bad blocks, apparently pretty well concentrated in two areas. I intend to buy a new drive but still trying to make use of this 80Gb Maxtor drive I googled for "low level format"

Re: low-level formatting?

2005-07-31 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, Running "badblocks -n" on my hard drive I found a couple hundred of bad blocks, apparently pretty well concentrated in two areas. I intend to buy a new drive but still trying to make use of this 80Gb Maxtor drive I googled for "low level format" (the type that asks t