Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-30 Thread Erez D
how about user-mode-linux, isn't it better for this perpose (i.e. as a sandbox) ?On 8/29/06, Muli Ben-Yehuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:37:13PM +0300, Gil Freund wrote: Yes, but that makes the domU trusted (an attacker with root access ot the domU can easily take down the

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-29 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:21:36PM +0300, Gil Freund wrote: I was asked about putting a firewall in Virtual Server environment. As far as I can tell, XEN will allow me to assign a NIC as a PCI desvice to a DomU. Yes, but that makes the domU trusted (an attacker with root access ot the domU

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-29 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:17:53AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: If you do set it up like that (and I did), please be sure to turn off hardware checksum generation for TCP/IP, or you'll have trouble connecting from the Xen machines that are behind the firewall to the internet There were

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:17:53AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: If you do set it up like that (and I did), please be sure to turn off hardware checksum generation for TCP/IP, or you'll have trouble connecting from the Xen machines that are behind the firewall to

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:17:53AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: If you do set it up like that (and I did), please be sure to turn off hardware checksum generation for TCP/IP, or you'll have trouble connecting from the Xen machines that are behind the firewall to

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-29 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:36:27AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Solution: RTFM ethtool for the command line option to disable hardware offloading of checksum calculation. ethtool -K ethN tx off Muli, This seems to me like a conceptual bug in the way Xen determines which is the true

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-29 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Gil Freund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was asked about putting a firewall in Virtual Server environment. You may be interested in this VMware appliance[1,2] http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/245 - a winning entry (3rd prize) to the VMware Ultimate Virtual Appliance Challenge,

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-29 Thread Gil Freund
On 8/29/06, Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gil Freund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was asked about putting a firewall in Virtual Server environment. You may be interested in this VMware appliance[1,2] This means it's doable. My concern is Is it wise to do it?.

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-29 Thread Gil Freund
On 8/29/06, Muli Ben-Yehuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:21:36PM +0300, Gil Freund wrote: I was asked about putting a firewall in Virtual Server environment. As far as I can tell, XEN will allow me to assign a NIC as a PCI desvice to a DomU. Yes, but that makes the

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-29 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:37:13PM +0300, Gil Freund wrote: Yes, but that makes the domU trusted (an attacker with root access ot the domU can easily take down the entire machine - unless you have an isolation capable IOMMU) Can you elaborate a little more? Does this mean that if the

Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-28 Thread Gil Freund
Hi, I was asked about putting a firewall in Virtual Server environment. As far as I can tell, XEN will allow me to assign a NIC as a PCI desvice to a DomU. VMware will only allow the usage of the NIC as bridge (albeit, without an IP address). My worries: 1. Will a DoS on the firewall leak to

Re: Virtual firewalls (Xen/VMware)

2006-08-28 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gil Freund wrote: Hi, I was asked about putting a firewall in Virtual Server environment. As far as I can tell, XEN will allow me to assign a NIC as a PCI desvice to a DomU. VMware will only allow the usage of the NIC as bridge (albeit, without an IP address). Huh? If you do set it up like