Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Eric S. Raymond wrote: It would. Because people who like the old config would continue to use the old tools Excuse me? Do you really believe that anyone is going to maintain the CML1 tools for as long as a nanosecond after they get dropped out of the kernel tree? I hereby volunteer to

Re: PIO mode support for 82371mx?

2001-05-18 Thread Thomas S. Iversen
accelerator? it's just another ide controller. I know, but as you wrote, the marketing department and so forth. or the piix driver doesn't recognize the pci vid/did for this particular chip. both are easy to fix. I figured out it had to be something along those lines, but I'm not sure

Alternatives to device nodes as directories idea?

2001-05-18 Thread Oliver Xymoron
It seems to me that Linus' idea of making device nodes work like directories is a little too clever and probably overkill but the only alternative I've seen suggested is Al's per-device filesystems which seems similarly excessive. Few devices will have a need for multiple streamable interfaces

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Michael Meissner wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:09:09PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: Aunt Tillie shouldn't try to manually configure a kernel. Ummm, maybe Aunt Tillie wants to learn how to configure a kernel After all, all of us at one point in time were newbies in terms of

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In my opinion, no configuration that is actually physically possible is perverse. Noted. And a very pithy statement of the position. Thanks. -- a href=http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/;Eric S. Raymond/a I do not find in orthodox Christianity

Re: APIC, AMD-K6/2 -mcpu=586...

2001-05-18 Thread Bill Pringlemeir
WJP == Bill Pringlemeir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] WJP I have the 2.4.4 distribution from kernel.org. WJP http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/; WJP I have a Mandrake system and selected the AMD processors and WJP APIC option. The egcs-2.91.66 compiler with -mcpu=586. It

Delivery reports about your email [FAILED(1)] (fwd)

2001-05-18 Thread kees
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Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Wayne . Brown
On 05/18/2001 at 11:45:40 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hereby volunteer to maintain at least make oldconfig and make config, and perhaps make menuconfig. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I'm quite happy with the current form of oldconfig and menuconfig, and will continue to use them as long

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-18 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! Hi! They might also be exactly the same channel, except with certain magic bits set. The example peter gave was fine: tty devices could very usefully be opened with something like fd = open(/dev/tty00/nonblock,9600,n8, O_RDWR); where we actually open up exactly the same

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Friday 18 May 2001 17:11, Arjan van de Ven wrote: (a) Back off the capability approach. That is, accept that people doing configuration are going to explicitly and exhaustively specify low-level hardware. snip I don't want to do (a); it conflicts with my design

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-18 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! But no, I don't actually like sockets all that much myself. They are hard to use from scripts, and many more people are familiar with open/close and read/write. Agreed. It would be nice to use open/close/read/write for control and bulk and sockets for interrupt and isochronous.

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Rik van Riel
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: Only doing parallel kernel builds. Heavy load throughput is up, but it swaps too heavily. It's a little too conservative about releasing cache now imho.

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Ruth Ivimey-Cook
At 04:22 PM 5/13/01 +0200, you wrote: I've said before on these lists that one of the purposes of CML2's single-apex tree design is to move the configuration dialog away from low-level platform- specific questions towards higher-level questions about policy or intentions. Or to put another way:

Re: Kernel bug with UNIX sockets not detecting other end gone?

2001-05-18 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:57:45PM +0100, Chris Evans wrote: Hi, I wonder if the following is a bug? It certainly differs from FreeBSD 4.2 behaviour, which gives the behaviour I would expect. The following program blocks indefinitely on Linux (2.2, 2.4 not tested). Since the other end

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right now, it's now a dropping back. You seem to take for granted that CML2 and your python2 frontend to it are 2.5.0 material. I don't right now. Linus is free to change his mind. Perhaps he will. But the last word I heard from him is that CML2 goes in in

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 01:17:07PM -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: It's been an ugly, nasty, horrible job -- *much* nastier, by an order of magnitude, than designing and writing the CML2 engine. Going the other direction would be worse. Like chewing razor blades is the simile that leaps to

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I hereby volunteer to maintain at least make oldconfig and make config, and perhaps make menuconfig. That's the easy part; the CML1 config code may be ugly and broken, but at least it's relatively stable. What you'd also have to do is maintain an entire

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Mike Castle
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 12:00:59PM -0400, John Cowan wrote: Christoph Hellwig wrote: Yes, I should have limited myself to pre-egcs versions. Huh? It's been possible to have multiple versions of gcc installed for a very long time. At least since 2.0 came out. Thu Dec 19 15:54:29 1991 K.

Q: missing or broken mmap().

2001-05-18 Thread Bohdan Vlasyuk
Hi !! I'm wondering what it may mean - something to be implemented in linux, of poorly configured system: --- $ gdb -m dummy -q --batch warning: mapped symbol tables are not supported on this machine; missing or broken mmap(). --- When I was reading info, I've seen that this feature is

Re: Storage - redundant path failover / failback - quo vadis linux?

2001-05-18 Thread Jonathan Lundell
At 9:03 AM +0200 2001-05-18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is which way is the more probable solution for future linux kernels? The low-level-approach of the T3-patch requires changes to the scsi-drivers and the hardware-drivers but provides optimal communication between the

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Christoph Hellwig
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 12:00:59PM -0400, John Cowan wrote: Christoph Hellwig wrote: [my voice was snipped here] Yes, I should have limited myself to pre-egcs versions. Huh? It's been possible to have multiple versions of gcc installed for a very

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-18 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Thu, May 17, 2001, Pavel Machek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But no, I don't actually like sockets all that much myself. They are hard to use from scripts, and many more people are familiar with open/close and read/write. Agreed. It would be nice to use open/close/read/write for

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Jonathan Morton wrote: As for the language CML2 is written in, surely C would work just as well as Python if the config-ruleset file is in a known format. GCC is required for the kernel to build, I don't see why anything else should be required simply to configure it.

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: Only doing parallel kernel builds. Heavy load throughput is up, but it swaps too heavily. It's a little too

alpha iommu fixes

2001-05-18 Thread Ivan Kokshaysky
The most interesting thing here is the pyxis tbia fix. Whee! I can now copy files from SCSI to bus-master IDE, or between two IDE drives on separate channels, or do other nice things without hanging lx/sx164. :-) The pyxis tbia turned out to be broken in a more nastier way than one could expect -

Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread Dan Kegel
Sasi Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am just writing an essay, an have mentioned TUX as a performance and scalability linearity recort holder with TUX, referencing the specweb99 website summary page: http://www.spec.org/osg/web99/results/web99.html However, taking a closer look, it

Re: cmpci sound chip lockup

2001-05-18 Thread Rik van Riel
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Ingo Oeser wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:02:06PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: I'm seeing a similar thing on 2.4.4-pre[23], but in a far less serious way. Using xmms the music stops after anything between a few seconds and a minute, I suspect a race condition

Re: cmpci sound chip lockup

2001-05-18 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Em Fri, May 18, 2001 at 03:02:18PM -0300, Rik van Riel escreveu: On Thu, 17 May 2001, Ingo Oeser wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:02:06PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: I'm seeing a similar thing on 2.4.4-pre[23], but in a far less serious way. Using xmms the music stops after anything

DMA support for toshiba IDE controllers

2001-05-18 Thread Alex Deucher
Does anyone know if there is any DMA support for the toshiba IDE controller's in many of their portable models such as the older porteges and librettos? The controllers support DMA, but not in linux. I'm not sure what toshiba's policy is on documentation. They used to be pretty stingy, but I

Oops

2001-05-18 Thread Andreas Bergen
Hi, this is an oops-file I created today. Attached is the original version as found in /var/log/messages as well as the ksymoops-ed version. Hope, it helps. If you need further info, don't hesitate to contact me. My machine is a Cyrix 6x68 166+; 96 MB RAM. Yours Andreas Bergen -- Andreas

FW: About swapper_page_dir and processes' page directory

2001-05-18 Thread Hua Ji
Folks, Get a question today. Thanks in advance. As we know, vmalloc and other memory allocation/de-allocation will change/update the swapper_page_dir maintain by the kernel. I am wondering when/how the kernel synchronzie the change to user level processes' page directory entries from the

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Rik van Riel
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Ingo Oeser wrote: Rik: Would you take patches for such a tradeoff sysctl? such a tradeoff ? While this sounds reasonable, I have to point out that up to now nobody has described exactly WHAT tradeoff they'd like to make tunable and why... I'm not against making things

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-18 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Wed, 16 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same situation appears when using bonding.o. For several years, Don Becker's (and derived) network drivers support changing MAC address when the interface is down. So Al's /dev/eth/n/MAC has different values depending on whether bonding is

Re: FIC AD11(AMD 761/VIA 686B) AGP port not supported [fixed]

2001-05-18 Thread Joshua Corbin
Ok, so appending agp_try_unsupported at boot gets the agp working (at least tolerably). The problem now appears to be with the DRI part of X/Radeon driver, because after adding the line: Option noaccel true to my XF86Config, all is well. Without it all that shows up on the screen is a bunch

Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants

2001-05-18 Thread James Simmons
They might also be exactly the same channel, except with certain magic bits set. The example peter gave was fine: tty devices could very usefully be opened with something like fd = open(/dev/tty00/nonblock,9600,n8, O_RDWR); where we actually open up exactly the same channel

Re: APIC, AMD-K6/2 -mcpu=586...

2001-05-18 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 05.18 Bill Pringlemeir wrote: Why don't the build scripts run a dummy file to determine where the floating point registers should be placed? ... const int value = offsetof(struct task_struct, thread.i387.fxsave) 15; ... That is not the problem. The problem is that the registers

Re: java/old_mmap allocation problems...

2001-05-18 Thread Wayne Whitney
In mailing-lists.linux-kernel, you wrote: i'm having problems to convince java (1.3.1) to allocate more than 1.9gb of memory on 2.4.2-ac2 (SMP/6gb phys mem) or more than 1.1gb on 2.2.18 (SMP/2gb phys mem)... Take a look at a thread from January starting at this point:

Re: problem: reading from (rivafb) framebuffer is really slow

2001-05-18 Thread James Simmons
When benchmarking DirectFB, I found that a typical software alpha blending rectangle fill is completely dominated (I'm talking 90% of the CPU cycles here) by the time it takes to read pixels from the framebuffer. Note the SOFTWARE alpha blending rectangle fill. You are passing alot of data

Re: APIC, AMD-K6/2 -mcpu=586...

2001-05-18 Thread Bill Pringlemeir
On 05.18 Bill Pringlemeir wrote: Why don't the build scripts run a dummy file to determine where the floating point registers should be placed? ... const int value = offsetof(struct task_struct, thread.i387.fxsave) 15; ... JAM == J A Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JAM That

Re: 8139too on 2.2.19 doesn't close file descriptors

2001-05-18 Thread Jens David
Hi, On Thursday 17 May 2001 23:04, you wrote: Hi! I was tracking down a problem with Debian installation freezing when doing the ifconfig of the 8139too driver on 2.2.19 kernel, and found that this was caused by 8139too for 2.2.19 not closing it's file descriptors. The original code by

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Ingo Oeser
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 03:23:03PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2001, Ingo Oeser wrote: Rik: Would you take patches for such a tradeoff sysctl? such a tradeoff ? While this sounds reasonable, I have to point out that up to now nobody has described exactly WHAT tradeoff

DVD blockdevice buffers

2001-05-18 Thread Eduard Hasenleithner
I have a problem with the buffering mechanism of my blockdevice, namely a ide_scsi DVD-ROM drive. After inserting a DVD and reading data linearly from the DVD, an excessive amount of buffer memory gets allocated. This can easily be reproduced with cat /dev/sr0 /dev/null Remember,

Re: DMA support for toshiba IDE controllers

2001-05-18 Thread Alex Deucher
Just to clarify, this is a custom Toshiba chipset. It includes IDE, PCI controller, etc. I believe the IDE controller may be on the ISA bus as it does not show up with lspci, etc. I'm not sure of the exact chip, perhaps someone with a better knowledge of toshiab products does. Thanks, Alex

Re: APIC, AMD-K6/2 -mcpu=586...

2001-05-18 Thread Bill Pringlemeir
JAM == J A Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JAM That is not the problem. The problem is that the registers have JAM to lay in a defined way, transcribed to a C struct, and that JAM pgcc lays badly that struct. WJP Yes, I understand that. I was showing a way to find the value WJP of

[OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread J Sloan
Ronald Bultje wrote: On 18 May 2001 10:12:34 +0200, reiser.angus wrote: However, taking a closer look, it turns out, that the above statement holds true only for 1 and 2 processor machines. Scalability already suffers at 4 processors, and at 8 processors, TUX 2.0 (7500) gets beaten

2.4.x: Bogus ARP packets containing NFS file data

2001-05-18 Thread Frank van Maarseveen
To recap: The machine is an NFSv3 client. The header of outgoing NFS UDP/IP packets is sometimes corrupted, such that network sniffers on unrelated systems report bogus ARP packets. AFAIK there is no data corruption on the file level because the request is no longer recognized by the NFS server.

Re: DVD blockdevice buffers

2001-05-18 Thread Jens Axboe
On Fri, May 18 2001, Eduard Hasenleithner wrote: I have a problem with the buffering mechanism of my blockdevice, namely a ide_scsi DVD-ROM drive. After inserting a DVD and reading data linearly from the DVD, an excessive amount of buffer memory gets allocated. This can easily be

Re: DMA support for toshiba IDE controllers

2001-05-18 Thread Bruce Harada
On Fri, 18 May 2001 11:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Alex Deucher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if there is any DMA support for the toshiba IDE controller's in many of their portable models such as the older porteges and librettos? The controllers support DMA, but not in linux. I'm not

Re: DVD blockdevice buffers

2001-05-18 Thread Eduard Hasenleithner
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 09:25:31PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: On Fri, May 18 2001, Eduard Hasenleithner wrote: I have a problem with the buffering mechanism of my blockdevice, namely a ide_scsi DVD-ROM drive. After inserting a DVD and reading data linearly from the DVD, an excessive amount

PATCH 2.4.5.3: quota initcall

2001-05-18 Thread Jeff Garzik
IMHO this is an obvious change, but it is untested... dquot_hash and dqstats are correctly declared static and in BSS, and thus are automatically cleared at kernel startup. Since quota init now just printk's a startup message, we can safely make it an initcall. -- Jeff Garzik | Do you

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10: Oops - 2.4.4

2001-05-18 Thread FAVRE Gregoire
Thus spake Alan Cox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Can you boot a kernel without fdomain.c compiled in next Yes, but I am too stupid: there were a faillure in my patch-2.4.4-ac10.bz2, which is 0 bits so I have bunzip -c patch-2.4.4-ac10.bz2|patch -p1 -s with an empty file :-(( That mean I compiled

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Alan Cox
Menuconfig is fairly popular, and requires curses.. etc. etc. There isn't a configurator which doesn't require something more than gcc is there? Configure only requires shell - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2001, Ingo Oeser wrote: Rik: Would you take patches for such a tradeoff sysctl? such a tradeoff ? While this sounds reasonable, I have to point out that up to now nobody has described exactly WHAT tradeoff they'd like to make

Re: Q: missing or broken mmap().

2001-05-18 Thread Alan Cox
I'm wondering what it may mean - something to be implemented in linux, of poorly configured system: Strange. Linux definitely has mmap() - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

00_rwsem-11, 2.4.4-ac11 and gcc-3(2001-05-14)

2001-05-18 Thread mirabilos
Andrea, I applied rwsem-11 (a bit by hand) to -ac11 and tried to compile. By changing CFLAGS_sys.o to -O (instead of -O2) as I read earlier I nearly could compile, it only barfed when it came to assemble the xaddl procedure by itself: static inline long rwsem_xchgadd(long value, long * count) {

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Rik van Riel
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Ingo Oeser wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 03:23:03PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: such a tradeoff ? While this sounds reasonable, I have to point out that up to now nobody has described exactly WHAT tradeoff they'd like to make tunable and why... Amount of pages

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Ingo Oeser wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 03:23:03PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2001, Ingo Oeser wrote: Rik: Would you take patches for such a tradeoff sysctl? such a tradeoff ? While this sounds reasonable, I have to point out that up to now

PATCH 2.4.5.3 (try 2): quota initcall

2001-05-18 Thread Jeff Garzik
Doh! I should really turn on that quota compile options... brown ppr bag Much better patch attached. -- Jeff Garzik | Do you have to make light of everything?! Building 1024| I'm extremely serious about nailing your MandrakeSoft | step-daughter, but other than that, yes. Index:

Framebuffer drivers and start options

2001-05-18 Thread Otto Wyss
I've used an ATI RageII card with frame buffer driver atyfb compiled into the kernel and specified 'append = video=atyfb:800x600@72' in lilo.conf. I've just gotten a second computer with a ATI RagePro128 card (frame buffer driver aty128fb) and compiled both driver as modules. Now the 'append...'

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10: Oops - 2.4.4

2001-05-18 Thread Alan Cox
Anyway, the bug is in 2.4.4, not in 2.4.4-ac10: I am really sorry for having loosing your time. With 2.4.4-ac9 with my fdomain, everything is also working great ;-) Great. [Crosses another bug off] Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Mike Castle
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 03:04:43PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Some of us are perfectly satisfied with the existing tools and don't want them to be yanked out from under us. Then stay with 2.4.x 2. Some of us have no interest in Python and don't like being forced to deal

[PATCH] videodev_init() - initcall

2001-05-18 Thread Alexander Viro
Alan, drivers/media/videodev.c is your code. See if you are OK with the patch below - it switches the thing to use of module_init() and removes the call of videodev_init() from chr_dev_init(). I.e. the only ordering change is that videodev_init() is postponed until immediately before the

Re: ReiserFs: Cosmetic problem in linux/Documentation/Changes[2.4.x]

2001-05-18 Thread Chris Mason
On Friday, May 18, 2001 01:26:01 PM +0200 Martin.Knoblauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin.Knoblauch wrote: Hi, I submitted this a short while ago, only to realize later that the subject line was not very informative. Sorry. As a suggestion: maybe the reiser-tools should support

Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread Rodger Donaldson
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 09:17:11AM +0100, Sean Hunter wrote: [Discussion of SPECWeb results] Why would you want to run a web server with 8 processors rather than four webservers with 2 each? Because you want to win benchmarketing exercises, not demonstrate that your architecture has any

Re: Delivery reports about your email [FAILED(1)] (fwd)

2001-05-18 Thread Erik Mouw
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:59:03PM +0200, kees wrote: Why? Because your mail server (ams8uucp0.ams.ops.eu.uu.net) is in ORBS, i.e. it is an open mail relay, probably used before to relay spam. Read http://www.orbs.org/ for instructions on how to get removed from ORBS. Erik --

Re: FIC AD11(AMD 761/VIA 686B) AGP port not supported [fixed]

2001-05-18 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 02:31:40AM +0800, Joshua Corbin wrote: Ok, so appending agp_try_unsupported at boot gets the agp working (at least tolerably). The problem now appears to be with the DRI part of X/Radeon driver, because after adding the line: Option noaccel true to my XF86Config, all

[PATCH] minor crapectomy in drivers/char/misc.c

2001-05-18 Thread Alexander Viro
% find . -type f -print | xargs grep -nwC1 radio_init ./drivers/char/misc.c-75-extern int ds1286_init(void); ./drivers/char/misc.c:76:extern int radio_init(void); ./drivers/char/misc.c-77-extern int pmu_device_init(void); -- ./drivers/char/misc.c-265-#ifdef CONFIG_MISC_RADIO

Re: Delivery reports about your email [FAILED(1)] (fwd)

2001-05-18 Thread kees
Hi I've send them a notice. Sorry for the disturbance, want happen again. Kees - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at

CML 1 is ok

2001-05-18 Thread mirabilos
Sorry, no gpm, so handquoting: - CML 1 works ok for me too - menuconfig is great it requires ncurses, but _this_ piece of software almost anyone has. and if not I use make [old]config. - xconfig I never tested. - python what's that? - upgrading gcc - 2.7.2.3 was ok, egcs and 2.9x I dont like. So

Linux Quality Database on Newsforge

2001-05-18 Thread Michael D. Crawford
chromatic has written a very nice article on the Linux Quality database at Newsforge: Linux Quality Database: One man's quest for kernel quality http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/05/17/204213mode=thread The site itself is at http://linuxquality.sunsite.dk/ You will see it is still in

Re: Linux Quality Database on Newsforge

2001-05-18 Thread Jeff Garzik
Michael D. Crawford wrote: chromatic has written a very nice article on the Linux Quality database at Newsforge: Linux Quality Database: One man's quest for kernel quality http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/05/17/204213mode=thread The site itself is at

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Pete Zaitcev
As for the language CML2 is written in, surely C would work just as well as Python if the config-ruleset file is in a known format. GCC is required for the kernel to build, I don't see why anything else should be required simply to configure it. Menuconfig is fairly popular, and

Re: java/old_mmap allocation problems...

2001-05-18 Thread Aaron Denney
On Fri, 18 May 2001 08:33:05 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm having problems to convince java (1.3.1) to allocate more than 1.9gb of memory on 2.4.2-ac2 (SMP/6gb phys mem) or more than 1.1gb on 2.2.18 (SMP/2gb phys mem)... modifing /proc/sys/vm parameters didn't help

Unresolved symbol compiling a standalone module?

2001-05-18 Thread Torrey Hoffman
I'm compiling a standalone kernel module outside the kernel tree. The compile completes fine, but when I try to insmod it, I get: unresolved symbol printk_R1b7d4074 unresolved symbol __const_udelay_Reae3dfd6 This is very strange, because a quick grep of some of the regular, loaded modules,

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Rik van Riel
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote: While I'd love to have more control, I can't say I have a clear picture of exactly how I'd like those knobs to look. I always start out trying to get it to seek the right behavior.. :) and end up fighting so many different fires I get lost in the

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Wayne . Brown
On 05/18/2001 at 03:56:50 PM Mike Castle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 03:04:43PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Some of us are perfectly satisfied with the existing tools and don't want them to be yanked out from under us. Then stay with 2.4.x Since doing

Re: ReiserFS 2.4.4/3.x.0k-pre2

2001-05-18 Thread Hans Reiser
Samium Gromoff wrote: Hello, I`m still experiencing file tail corruptions on subj. And more: after i had restored bblocked patrition (by relying on drive`s ability to remap bblks on write by wroting small modification of debugreiserfs which zeroified all

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:44:39PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: This is the core of why we cannot (IMHO) have a discussion of whether a patch introducing new VM tunables can go in: there is no clear overview of exactly what would need to be tunable and how it would help. It's worse than

Re: CML 1 is ok

2001-05-18 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 12:00:28AM +0200, mirabilos wrote: netfilter: I _liked_ ipfwadm because I hate to always re-learn when a new kernel comes out. Netfilter is going to stay. Rusty knew from early on in ipchains development that the whole concept was wrong, but Alan told him to continue

Q: procfs entry.

2001-05-18 Thread Anders Peter Fugmann
Hi again. I have a question about the function parsed for reading a procfs entry. I've used the skeleton from drivers/char/misc.c, and all works perfectly, but I see a potential flaw. static int misc_read_proc(char *buf, char **start, off_t offset, int len, int

[PATCH][RFC]

2001-05-18 Thread Vitaly Luban
Attached patch is an implementation of signal-per-fd enhancement to kernel RT signal mechanism, AFAIK first proposed by A. Chandra and D. Mosberger : http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2000/HPL-2000-174.html which should dramatically increase linux based network servers scalability. Patch is

[OT] IBM offers 6% ThinkPad linux discount on phone

2001-05-18 Thread Tim Moore
While browsing IBM ThinkPads online I noticed only one high-end model with linux. I called 1-888-SHOP-IBMx7000 (phone sales) to inquire how to get a ThinkPad without Windows given I would be immediately installing linux. I was offered 6% off the online price for any Thinkpad which in my case

Re: [PATCH] videodev_init() - initcall

2001-05-18 Thread Randy.Dunlap
Al's patch gives me: videodev.c:550: warning: static declaration for `videodev_init' follows non-static videodev.c: In function `videodev_exit': videodev.c:579: warning: implicit declaration of function `videodev_proc_destroy' Patch to use after Al's patch is attached. ~Randy Alexander Viro

[PATCH][RFC] Signal-per-fd for RT signals

2001-05-18 Thread Vitaly Luban
Hi, I'm sorry, the previous message slipped out w/o subj. Attached patch is an implementation of signal-per-fd enhancement to kernel RT signal mechanism, AFAIK first proposed by A. Chandra and D. Mosberger : http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2000/HPL-2000-174.html which should dramatically

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Rik van Riel
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:44:39PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: This is the core of why we cannot (IMHO) have a discussion of whether a patch introducing new VM tunables can go in: there is no clear overview of exactly what would need to be

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Mike Castle
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 11:12:32PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: Basic rule for VM: once you start swapping, you cannot win; All you can do is make sure no situation loses really badly and most situations perform reasonably. Do you mean paging in general or thrashing? I always thought: paging

Re: alpha iommu fixes

2001-05-18 Thread Tom Vier
maybe this third window stuff in cia_enable_broken_tbia() is why i can't seem to get the third window to open up. from my reading of the 21174 docs, my code should work. since T2_BASE is at 0x4000 for 1gig, i'd think T3_BASE should be at 0x8000. am i missing something?

Noticeable latency problems after upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.4.4

2001-05-18 Thread Josh Green
I'm experiencing nasty latency problems (stalls X cursor, Maelstrom arcade game :), etc) with Linux kernel 2.4.4. I did not have this problem with 2.4.3. I have Mandrake 8.0. I made sure that I compiled the 2.4.4 kernel with the older egcs 1.1.2 (although I did try it with the controversial gcc

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 12:04:34PM -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't want to do (a); it conflicts with my design objective of simplifying configuration enough that Aunt Tillie can do it. I won't do that unless I see a strong consensus that it's the only

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't want to do (a); it conflicts with my design objective of simplifying configuration enough that Aunt Tillie can do it. I won't do that unless I see a strong consensus that it's the only Right Thing. Its a good way of getting the defaults right. It may

Problem! kernel: TCP: too many of orphaned sockets

2001-05-18 Thread Dworf
Hello all. I have a little problem, I have an Pentium 266Mhz linux box with kernel 2.4.2 with 64mb of memory, After about an 1 day of running i get this msg loged in /var/log/messages kernel: TCP: too many of orphaned sockets after that noone can telnet to the box or anything couse of the

Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10

2001-05-18 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: Hi, On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:44:39PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: This is the core of why we cannot (IMHO) have a discussion of whether a patch introducing new VM tunables can go in: there is no clear overview of exactly what would need to

Using Parallel Port to Receive Signals

2001-05-18 Thread antonpoon
I am trying to use the data port of parallel port to receive data, so I set the bit 5 of the control port to enable the bi-directional port, but it doesn't work. My parallel supports SPP/EPP/ECP mode, does it support bi-directional mode? if yes, how can I config it? I wish to be personally

Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Ben Ford
Charles Cazabon wrote: Eric S. Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Aunt Tillie doesn't even know what a kernel is, nor does she want to. I think it's fair to assume that people who configure and compile their own kernel (as opposed to using the distribution

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Ben Ford
Arjan van de Ven wrote: Eric S. Raymond wrote: an old interface in amber do anything to explore new UI possibilities? kernel != GUI UI != GUI -- One trend that bothers me is the glorification of stupidity, that the media is reassuring people it's alright not to know anything. That to

Re: Kernel bug with UNIX sockets not detecting other end gone?

2001-05-18 Thread Alan Cox
What I'm seeing however in an other program is that select says I can read from the socket, and that read returns 0, with errno set to EGAIN. I call select() again, with returns and says I can read No no no. If the read does not return -1 it does not change errno. EOF isnt an error. - To

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Alan Cox
For CML1 and CML2 to handle the same language, we would either have to live with the CML1 language's limitations or retrofit the old tools to speak CML2 language. The chance of the latter happening is, I think we can agree, effectively zero. Being able to turn CML2 into CML1 might be the

Re: [OT] Re: Linux scalability?

2001-05-18 Thread David S. Miller
Peter Rival writes: Really? I just checked and it's still there from what I see. We're talking about the Dell 8450/700 w/ IIS SWC 3.0 result, right? I'm hoping that they're deemed NC, but I don't see it yet... Sorry, they are there in the table, but marked as NC. Maybe you need to

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In general this is the best option, if you create a non-standard configuration for machine foo then it is your problem, not everybody else's. Which makes CML2 inferior to CML1 again. Now if it could parse CML1 rulesets this whole discussion wouldn't be

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 design philosophy heads-up

2001-05-18 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 12:34:13PM -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Alan, it sounds very much like you just said something stupid. This seems sufficiently unlikely that I am shaking my head in disbelief and fingernailing wax out of both ears (and if you think doing both those things at once is

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