Re: VIA 686B/Data Corruption

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
Interesting. They should be the same code for the VIA driver. I remember hearing something about Red Hat disabling UDMA on VIA chips across the board. Maybe that has something to do with it? The RH 7.1 kernel disables VIA UDMA if the board has a DMI string indiciating its a KT7 or

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Jeff Garzik
Gerhard Mack wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: Linus Torvalds wrote: Things like version strings etc sound useful, but the fact is that the only _real_ problem it has ever solved for anybody is when somebody thinks they install a new kernel, and forgets to run lilo or

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Gerhard Mack
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: Linus Torvalds wrote: Things like version strings etc sound useful, but the fact is that the only _real_ problem it has ever solved for anybody is when somebody thinks they install a new kernel, and forgets to run lilo or something. But even that

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: As Alan said, driver versions are incredibly useful. People use update their drivers over top of kernel drivers all the time. Vendors do it too. Run dmesg and e-mail me the output is 1000 times more simple for end users. Fair enough. Especially as

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Jeff Garzik
Linus Torvalds wrote: Especially as dmesg will output even the debugging messages that do not actually end up being printed on the screen unless explicitly asked for. Nifty, I did not know that. Makes all kinds of sense, though. Silly me... I'd also like to acknowledge the fact that at

Re: PROBLEM:Illegal instruction when mount nfs file systems using

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
Intel specifically state that you cannot use CMOV without checking for it. Its actually a gcc/binutils tool bug. The CPU is right. How is that a gcc bug? You tell the compiler to generate cmov, you run it on a CPU that doesn't have it, you get what you deserve. There's really nothing

Re: BIG PROBLEM

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
i've compiled the kernel 2.4.4 , once i finish and boot the first time on 2.4.4 everything goses ok , only too problemes 1st- klogd takes 100% CPU time Old old versions of klogd had bugs where they would do that. If there is a continuous problem it may also do so - does 'dmesg' show

Re: PROBLEM: kernel bug at page_alloc.c:81

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
1 After a 'shutdown -h now', I get a kernel bug at page_alloc.c:81 2 After being in X (only happens after being in X), I get out of X, and as root I do a 'shutdown -h now'. It goes through the shutdown process normally, and then after it prints Syncing hardware clock to system time [

Re: PROBLEM:Illegal instruction when mount nfs file systems using

2001-06-28 Thread Mikael Pettersson
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:42:09 +0100 (BST), Alan Cox wrote: Intel specifically state that you cannot use CMOV without checking for it. Its actually a gcc/binutils tool bug. The CPU is right. How is that a gcc bug? You tell the compiler to generate cmov, you run it on a CPU that doesn't

Re: PROBLEM:Illegal instruction when mount nfs file systems using

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
Here I have to disagree with you Alan. When you pass -march=i686 to gcc, you are _not_ saying generate code for a CPUID family 6 CPU. -march=i686 actually means target an Intel P6 family chip, given what we currently know about them. The gcc info pages don't talk Which is fine. The Pentium

Re: AGP Question

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
4002b000-4002c000 rw-s ec681000 03:01 181386 /dev/mem 4002c000-4002d000 rw-s 4000 03:01 185562 /dev/nvidia0 I'd suggest you talk to your proprietary driver and application provider. Who knows what their driver does - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe

Re: 2.2.x series and mm

2001-06-28 Thread Sean Hunter
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:27:11PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: I'm fairly sure it is the file buffers as the apache is already reniced to 20, it is got max 50 processes and each of processes is limited to like 1.5mb of size via ulimit. nice wont help you, it controls scheduling

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Patrick Dreker
Hello... Am Donnerstag, 28. Juni 2001 00:16 schrieb Linus Torvalds: I don't _have_ any instances of my name being printed out to annoy the user, so that's a very theoretical argument. Err Just nitpicking... dreker@wintermute:~ dmesg | grep -C Linus hub.c: 2 ports detected uhci.c: Linus

Re: VIA 686B/Data Corruption FAQ

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
http://www.viahardware.com/686bfaq.shtm Couldn't find a mention of this in the archives, but those interested in the VIA chipset issues should check this out. The page contains the following officail statement from VIA: Yeah I've seen it, but they won't tell people what is in it which is

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
Can we please also drop annoying static informational printk's? Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 The later line is not something of interest to most people, and if it happens to be they can research it rather than being force-fed

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
Updatedb is a bit odd in that it mostly sucks in metadata and the buffer to page cache balancing is a bit suspect IMHO. In 2.4.6-pre, the buffer cache is no longer used for metata, right? For ext2 directory blocks the page cache is now used - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: SMP-Board, only 1 CPU, strange Crashes

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
Now the system runs fine for about 1 Week. After than, it oftens crashes. crashes is not realy the thing ... diffrent things happen : Unfortunately you dont give enough information to even take a wild guess The system is running on 2.4.4-ac18 Do try ac13 as well, there are some glitches in

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-06-28 Thread Tobias Ringstrom
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: This would be extremely useful. My laptop has 256mb of ram, but every day it runs the updatedb for locate. This fills the memory with the file cache. Interactivity is then terrible, and swap is unnecessarily used. On the laptop all this hard drive

Re: [RFC] I/O Access Abstractions

2001-06-28 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PCI memory (and sometimes I/O) writes are posted, Since x86 memory writes are also parallelisable instructions and since the CPU merely has to retire the writes in order your stall basically doesnt exist. True. I can envisage a situation where the overhead of the

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-06-28 Thread Tobias Ringstrom
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: That isnt really down to labelling pages, what you are talking qbout is what you get for free when page aging works right (eg 2.0.39) but don't get in 2.2 - and don't yet (although its coming) quite get right in 2.4.6pre. Correct, but all pages

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
That isnt really down to labelling pages, what you are talking qbout is what you get for free when page aging works right (eg 2.0.39) but don't get in 2.2 - and don't yet (although its coming) quite get right in 2.4.6pre. Correct, but all pages are not equal. That is the whole point of

Re: VM Requirement Document - v0.0

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
This would be extremely useful. My laptop has 256mb of ram, but every day it runs the updatedb for locate. This fills the memory with the file cache. Interactivity is then terrible, and swap is unnecessarily used. On the laptop all this hard drive thrashing is bad news for battery life

Re: 2.4.6-pre6 cs46xx build error with CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION=m

2001-06-28 Thread Steven Cole
On Thursday 28 June 2001 09:33, Alan Cox wrote: With CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION=m, I get the following error for 2.4.6-pre6 during make modules: I've got a number of older 2.4.[3,4,5] kernels, so I'll go back and try to figure out when the change occured, but this is the first time I've seen

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
Perhaps even a boot flag of some sort to de-activate the printing of the /proc/credits during the kernel boot sequence. Or would the community rather an opt-in scenario... Leave the copyright messages alone is all I can say. And as to your flag, well we've got one. Try the 'quiet' boot option

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Patrick Dreker wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. Juni 2001 00:16 schrieb Linus Torvalds: I don't _have_ any instances of my name being printed out to annoy the user, so that's a very theoretical argument. Err Just nitpicking... dreker@wintermute:~ dmesg | grep -C Linus

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Perhaps even a boot flag of some sort to de-activate the printing of the /proc/credits during the kernel boot sequence. Or would the community rather an opt-in scenario... Leave the copyright messages alone is all I can say. And as to your flag,

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac20

2001-06-28 Thread Udo A. Steinberg
Alan Cox wrote: This is the initial merge with 2.4.6pre - treat this one with care, it may not be the most reliable 2.4.5ac release ever made make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.5-ac/drivers/pnp' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.5-ac/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Things like version strings etc sound useful, but the fact is that the only _real_ problem it has ever solved for anybody is when somebody thinks they install a new kernel, and forgets to run lilo or something. I can give counter-examples of times when it's been

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
Things like version strings etc sound useful, but the fact is that the only _real_ problem it has ever solved for anybody is when somebody thinks they install a new kernel, and forgets to run lilo or something. But even that information you really get from a simple uname -a. For device

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
As to the credit argument: put your copyright at the top of the source file. The people who care and matter will see it. And do NOT hide the copyright with reams of changelog information. Put that in a separate file if you must. Managers at places like Cisco see boot messages and it gets

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
Also consider the question What was the last thing you see on screen before it reboots? You need that info in case it doesn't. Its much like the watchdog tells you it fired in case someone didn't wire it right. So in a sense its an error message - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: As to the credit argument: put your copyright at the top of the source file. The people who care and matter will see it. And do NOT hide the copyright with reams of changelog information. Put that in a separate file if you must. Managers at places

Re: [RFC] I/O Access Abstractions

2001-06-28 Thread Jes Sorensen
David == David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Having per-resource I/O methods would help us to remove some of David the cruft which is accumulating in various non-x86 code. Note David that the below is the _core_ routines for _one_ board - I'm not David even including the extra

2.4.5-ac20 problems with drivers/net/Config.in and make xconfig

2001-06-28 Thread Steven Cole
I got this familiar error with make xconfig and 2.4.5-ac20 (same as 2.4.6-pre6) drivers/net/Config.in: 149: can't handle dep_bool/dep_mbool/dep_tristate condition make[1]: *** [kconfig.tk] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.5-ac20/scripts' make: *** [xconfig] Error 2 I

Re: A signal fairy tale

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
admit that UNIX has a crappy event model, and implement something like Win32 GetMessage =)... Thats a subset of the real time signal model already in Linux. Just block the signal and wait for it.. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac20

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
This is the initial merge with 2.4.6pre - treat this one with care, it may not be the most reliable 2.4.5ac release ever made Yeah I borked that. The good news is it'll be fixed in ac21 _and_ that it'll do hotplug notification for dock/undock ;) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 10:29:11AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taking that one step further, isn't it a developer's right to toot their own horn in their code? Right. In the code. Not in the Linux boot diagnostic information. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe

Re: 2.4.6-pre6 cs46xx build error with CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION=m

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
With CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION=m, I get the following error for 2.4.6-pre6 during make modules: I've got a number of older 2.4.[3,4,5] kernels, so I'll go back and try to figure out when the change occured, but this is the first time I've seen this particular build error. I've fixed the build

PATCH: cciss small pci id table patch

2001-06-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
Hi, The cciss driver in 2.4.5-ac19 is missing the terminating {0,}. Ciao, Marcus Index: drivers/block/cciss.c === RCS file: /build/mm/work/repository/linux-mm/drivers/block/cciss.c,v retrieving revision 1.23 diff -u -r1.23 cciss.c

Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch.

2001-06-28 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Perhaps even a boot flag of some sort to de-activate the printing of the /proc/credits during the kernel boot sequence. Or would the community rather an opt-in scenario... KERN_BANNER -- dwmw2 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe

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