Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew McKay
Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 21, 2007, Andrew McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A balance of freedom to the licensee and the licenser. It's my opinion that GPLv3 potentially shifts the balance too far to the licensee. It's more of a balance of freedom between licensee and licensee, ac

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew McKay
Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 21, 2007, Andrew McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how can the server tell if it's been tampered with? I agree with this statement. Err... That's a question, not a statement ;-) Sorry, that's what happens when one types

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew McKay
t was fought through education of consumers and not with a license agreement that should be giving people freedom. A balance of freedom to the licensee and the licenser. It's my opinion that GPLv3 potentially shifts the balance too far to the licensee. Andrew McKay - To unsubscribe from this list: se

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew McKay
e has been modified to run in an invisible promiscuous mode. The device looks as if it isn't doing anything wrong, but is forwarding the network out another interface. The only way to prevent that type of attack is to not allow unauthorized signed Kernels onto that network. Andrew McKay - To u

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew McKay
modified to run in an invisible promiscuous mode. The device looks as if it isn't doing anything wrong, but is forwarding the network out another interface. The only way to prevent that type of attack is to not allow unauthorized signed Kernels onto that network. Andrew McKay - To unsubscribe from

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew McKay
and not with a license agreement that should be giving people freedom. A balance of freedom to the licensee and the licenser. It's my opinion that GPLv3 potentially shifts the balance too far to the licensee. Andrew McKay - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew McKay
Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 21, 2007, Andrew McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how can the server tell if it's been tampered with? I agree with this statement. Err... That's a question, not a statement ;-) Sorry, that's what happens when one types before

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew McKay
Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 21, 2007, Andrew McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A balance of freedom to the licensee and the licenser. It's my opinion that GPLv3 potentially shifts the balance too far to the licensee. It's more of a balance of freedom between licensee and licensee, actually

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew McKay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 On Jun 20, 2007, Andrew McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, I don't see how this would ever require a company like Tivo or Mastercard t

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew McKay
Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 20, 2007, Andrew McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, I don't see how this would ever require a company like Tivo or Mastercard to have their networks play nice with a unit that has been modified by the end user, potentially opening up some serious se

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew McKay
t was designed to do with modified code, but maybe I have misunderstood. Andrew McKay - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew McKay
contribute a lot, won't be contributing either. I'm not going to address whether GPLv3 changed the spirit of GPLv2, but saying that licensing the Linux Kernel under GPLv3 will result in more contributions is absolute BS. Andrew McKay Iders Inc. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew McKay
contribute a lot, won't be contributing either. I'm not going to address whether GPLv3 changed the spirit of GPLv2, but saying that licensing the Linux Kernel under GPLv3 will result in more contributions is absolute BS. Andrew McKay Iders Inc. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew McKay
have misunderstood. Andrew McKay - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew McKay
Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jun 20, 2007, Andrew McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I don't see how this would ever require a company like Tivo or Mastercard to have their networks play nice with a unit that has been modified by the end user, potentially opening up some serious security

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-20 Thread Andrew McKay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 On Jun 20, 2007, Andrew McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I don't see how this would ever require a company like Tivo or Mastercard to have