Re: iSCSI target stops sending responses to login requests

2014-08-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
have a console open on the machine and can verify the odd behavior. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kern

Re: BUG: early intel microcode update violating alignment rules

2014-08-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
mory right after the microcode which you could put on the stack (15 bytes) slide the image up into alignment, load it, and put everything back. Haven't looked at the code or data, just tossing out an idea I used for something else back when. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear fr

Re: BUG: early intel microcode update violating alignment rules

2014-08-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
the microcode which you could put on the stack (15 bytes) slide the image up into alignment, load it, and put everything back. Haven't looked at the code or data, just tossing out an idea I used for something else back when. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from

Re: iSCSI target stops sending responses to login requests

2014-08-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
have a console open on the machine and can verify the odd behavior. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel

Re: RAID extremely slow

2012-07-31 Thread Bill Davidsen
Kevin Ross wrote: On 07/27/2012 09:45 PM, Grant Coady wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:45:18 -0700, you wrote: On 07/27/2012 12:08 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Have you set the io scheduler to deadline on all members of the array? That's kind of "job one" on older kernels. I have n

Re: RAID extremely slow

2012-07-31 Thread Bill Davidsen
Kevin Ross wrote: On 07/27/2012 09:45 PM, Grant Coady wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:45:18 -0700, you wrote: On 07/27/2012 12:08 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Have you set the io scheduler to deadline on all members of the array? That's kind of job one on older kernels. I have not, thanks

Re: RAID extremely slow

2012-07-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
;job one" on older kernels. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message

Re: RAID extremely slow

2012-07-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
of job one on older kernels. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to majord

Re: Driver removals

2008-02-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:08:13 EST, Bill Davidsen said: can never make you see why technological extortion is evil. People have always moved to new drivers without pushing because they were *better*, guess that model is dead. And the drivers get better because

Re: Driver removals

2008-02-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:08:13 EST, Bill Davidsen said: can never make you see why technological extortion is evil. People have always moved to new drivers without pushing because they were *better*, guess that model is dead. And the drivers get better because

Re: Driver removals

2008-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:07:41PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 09:26:26PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... In general, if a driver works and is being used, until it *needs* attention I see no reason to replace

Re: Is there a "blackhole" /dev/null directory?

2008-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
just looking at the critical output rather than the analysis. Yes, if this was an original program requirement it would or should have been a feature. Real world cases sometimes use tools in creative ways. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bunglin

Re: Driver removals

2008-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 09:26:26PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... In general, if a driver works and is being used, until it *needs* attention I see no reason to replace it. I don't agree that "it forces people to try the new driver" is a valid reason, being un

Re: Driver removals

2008-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 09:26:26PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... In general, if a driver works and is being used, until it *needs* attention I see no reason to replace it. I don't agree that it forces people to try the new driver is a valid reason, being unmaintained

Re: Is there a blackhole /dev/null directory?

2008-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
the analysis. Yes, if this was an original program requirement it would or should have been a feature. Real world cases sometimes use tools in creative ways. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked

Re: Driver removals

2008-02-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:07:41PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 09:26:26PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... In general, if a driver works and is being used, until it *needs* attention I see no reason to replace

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
driver needs a change. I can't see anyone using sk98lin on a new system, so it would be less contentious to let the hardware (or users) die of natural causes if you can. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be

Re: "ide=reverse" do we still need this?

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
to happen, and upgrading the hardware isn't cost effective, but keeping old systems out of the landfill is ecologically and financially sound. The option is a holdover from the past, but so arm some of my clients and their hardware. ;-) And *my* hardware, I might add, I am as cheap as anyone

Re: reading user. extended attributes from symlinks in 2.6 kernels

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
appreciate it very much if somebody could point me towards a solution. If you want to do it at user code level, you could note the symlink, follow it to the "real" name, and read the EA there. I don't see any easy way to force the kernel to follow the symlink. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROT

Re: reading user. extended attributes from symlinks in 2.6 kernels

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
appreciate it very much if somebody could point me towards a solution. If you want to do it at user code level, you could note the symlink, follow it to the real name, and read the EA there. I don't see any easy way to force the kernel to follow the symlink. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have

Re: ide=reverse do we still need this?

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
, and upgrading the hardware isn't cost effective, but keeping old systems out of the landfill is ecologically and financially sound. The option is a holdover from the past, but so arm some of my clients and their hardware. ;-) And *my* hardware, I might add, I am as cheap as anyone. -- Bill

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
sk98lin on a new system, so it would be less contentious to let the hardware (or users) die of natural causes if you can. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be valid when the war is over... Otto von Bismark

Re: [BUG] Problem with recording on hda-intel (sata_sil or hda-intel bug) - HP nx6325

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
thought. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message

Re: [rft] s2ram wakeup moves to .c, could fix few machines

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
, but they should get cleaned up. /me is tempted to provide a version which can send messages in Morse Code ;) Thought someone did that a while ago. Alan Cox, maybe. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the m

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
rate no errors, other than the driver thinks it's sending packets and the sniffer doesn't. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this

Driver removals

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
to unfunded mandates, and requiring changes to kernel, module and/or rc.local config is just that. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this li

Driver removals

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
, and requiring changes to kernel, module and/or rc.local config is just that. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel

Re: [rft] s2ram wakeup moves to .c, could fix few machines

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
, but they should get cleaned up. /me is tempted to provide a version which can send messages in Morse Code ;) Thought someone did that a while ago. Alan Cox, maybe. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
the driver thinks it's sending packets and the sniffer doesn't. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel

Re: [BUG] Problem with recording on hda-intel (sata_sil or hda-intel bug) - HP nx6325

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
thought. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo

Re: Scheduler(?) regression from 2.6.22 to 2.6.24 for short-lived threads

2008-02-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
than multi-socket, by avoiding using the system memory bus, but it still can get ugly. I have an IPC test around which showed that, it ran like hell on HT, and progressively worse as cache because less shared. I wonder why the latest git works so much better? -- Bill Davidsen <[EM

Re: Scheduler(?) regression from 2.6.22 to 2.6.24 for short-lived threads

2008-02-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
than multi-socket, by avoiding using the system memory bus, but it still can get ugly. I have an IPC test around which showed that, it ran like hell on HT, and progressively worse as cache because less shared. I wonder why the latest git works so much better? -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL

Re: Massive IDE problems. Who leaves data here?

2008-01-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
y help! I'm not sure I helped, but you now have more and better things about which to be confused. ;-) Yours Manuel -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashd

Re: Massive IDE problems. Who leaves data here?

2008-01-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
things about which to be confused. ;-) Yours Manuel -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel

Re: [RFC][PATCH] per-task I/O throttling

2008-01-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
to make it fully tunable, it could have a default by UID or GID. Usful on machines shared by students or managers. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To

Re: [PATCH][RFC] fast file mapping for loop

2008-01-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
int though. - It cannot be used with the loop encryption stuff. dm-crypt should be used instead, on top of loop (which, I think, is even the recommended way to do this today, so not a big deal). -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the

Re: [PATCH][RFC] fast file mapping for loop

2008-01-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
. - It cannot be used with the loop encryption stuff. dm-crypt should be used instead, on top of loop (which, I think, is even the recommended way to do this today, so not a big deal). -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from

Re: [RFC][PATCH] per-task I/O throttling

2008-01-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
to make it fully tunable, it could have a default by UID or GID. Usful on machines shared by students or managers. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from

Re: Freezing filesystems (Was Re: What's in store for 2008 for TuxOnIce?)

2008-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
ing merged by Linus? Judging from the fact that TuxOnIce is still excluded, I would say the answer is obvious. :-( Posession is nine points of the law... -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wick

Re: semi-regular plea for stable device mapping

2008-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
s, because they've got dynamic numbers everywhere. Did they? I haven't tried using tar in the appropriate ways on BSD to see if it behaves in the same way. Of course on a system which doesn't change between backups I guess the dynamic number would be the same in any case. -- Bill Davidsen <[EM

Re: RAID timeout parameter accessibility request

2008-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
much, with rewrites of sectors where possible this problem is less common than it was. But I agree on the drive kicking option, more control is good. However, the timeout should be in the driver, not in the raid code, that's where it belongs. The kernel copes with errors better than having a drive g

Re: RAID timeout parameter accessibility request

2008-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
on the drive kicking option, more control is good. However, the timeout should be in the driver, not in the raid code, that's where it belongs. The kernel copes with errors better than having a drive go practice self-gratification for minutes at a time. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We

Re: semi-regular plea for stable device mapping

2008-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
got dynamic numbers everywhere. Did they? I haven't tried using tar in the appropriate ways on BSD to see if it behaves in the same way. Of course on a system which doesn't change between backups I guess the dynamic number would be the same in any case. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We

Re: Freezing filesystems (Was Re: What's in store for 2008 for TuxOnIce?)

2008-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
? Judging from the fact that TuxOnIce is still excluded, I would say the answer is obvious. :-( Posession is nine points of the law... -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot

Re: More verizon problems

2007-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
08:08 -0800 (PST) Most likely cause is that you forwarded mail from google to verizon, which is probably a bad thing on many levels. Not Verizon's fault. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinatio

Re: Trying to convert old modules to newer kernels

2007-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
of user programs is not something I ever do... -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"

Re: Trying to convert old modules to newer kernels

2007-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
for this persons application so that he could use sse and mmx etc. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "uns

Re: Trying to convert old modules to newer kernels

2007-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
for this persons application so that he could use sse and mmx etc. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel

Re: Trying to convert old modules to newer kernels

2007-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
of user programs is not something I ever do... -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message

Re: More verizon problems

2007-12-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
cause is that you forwarded mail from google to verizon, which is probably a bad thing on many levels. Not Verizon's fault. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from

Re: /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data

2007-12-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
speed, CPU temperature, etc. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the b

Re: /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data

2007-12-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
supposedly use radioactive decay, I'm unsure if that's better but I don't want to carry the dongle in my pants pocket. The hotbits network site uses radioactive decay to generate it's numbers. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompeten

Re: [PATCH 00/29] Swap over NFS -v15

2007-12-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
of this code over the two existing network swap approaches, swapping to NFS mounted file and swap to NBD device? I've used the NFS file when a program was running out of memory and that seemed to work, people in UNYUUG have reported that the nbd swap works, so what's better here? -- Bill

Re: [PATCH 2/6] random: use xor for mixing

2007-12-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
concerns. That doesn't actually sound too hard, and the sounds of passing traffic are not likely to be replicable in any case. Lots of sensor data might be used as well, fan rpm, etc. That sounds so obvious I can't believe there isn't a reason it's not being done. -- Bill Davidsen <[EM

Re: [PATCH 2/6] random: use xor for mixing

2007-12-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
concerns. That doesn't actually sound too hard, and the sounds of passing traffic are not likely to be replicable in any case. Lots of sensor data might be used as well, fan rpm, etc. That sounds so obvious I can't believe there isn't a reason it's not being done. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL

Re: [PATCH 00/29] Swap over NFS -v15

2007-12-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
of this code over the two existing network swap approaches, swapping to NFS mounted file and swap to NBD device? I've used the NFS file when a program was running out of memory and that seemed to work, people in UNYUUG have reported that the nbd swap works, so what's better here? -- Bill

Re: /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data

2007-12-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
speed, CPU temperature, etc. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Re: /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data

2007-12-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
supposedly use radioactive decay, I'm unsure if that's better but I don't want to carry the dongle in my pants pocket. The hotbits network site uses radioactive decay to generate it's numbers. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from

Re: Iomega ZIP-100 drive unsupported with jmicron JMB361 chip?

2007-12-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
idescsi driver, although I haven't used a kernel newer than... 2.6.18 or so on the old machines. Since you have a solution I won't suggest you try that with an old kernel ;-) -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from t

Re: programs vanish with 2.6.22+

2007-12-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROT

Re: Does vger.kernel.org automatically drop spams?

2007-12-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
) can approve your messages for posting, but it will take a few hours that I get off work, and have time to do it. (I need to do some additional setups, all those lists are not in my existing majordomo password database..) Should I wait for your approval? -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: sockets affected by IPsec always block (2.6.23)

2007-12-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
think you for the hint, but I would hardly call this sentence "detailed" in terms of being a cookbook solution to the problem. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked."

Re: sockets affected by IPsec always block (2.6.23)

2007-12-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
would hardly call this sentence detailed in terms of being a cookbook solution to the problem. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Does vger.kernel.org automatically drop spams?

2007-12-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
) can approve your messages for posting, but it will take a few hours that I get off work, and have time to do it. (I need to do some additional setups, all those lists are not in my existing majordomo password database..) Should I wait for your approval? -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We

Re: programs vanish with 2.6.22+

2007-12-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http

Re: Iomega ZIP-100 drive unsupported with jmicron JMB361 chip?

2007-12-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
on the old machines. Since you have a solution I won't suggest you try that with an old kernel ;-) -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Kernel 2.6.23.9 / P35 Chipset + WD 750GB Drives (reset port)

2007-12-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tejun Heo wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Dec 1 2007 06:26, Justin Piszcz wrote: I ran the following: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde (as it is always a very good idea to do this with any new disk

Re: Kernel 2.6.23.9 / P35 Chipset + WD 750GB Drives (reset port)

2007-12-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tejun Heo wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Dec 1 2007 06:26, Justin Piszcz wrote: I ran the following: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde (as it is always a very good idea to do this with any new disk

Re: Why does reading from /dev/urandom deplete entropy so much?

2007-12-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 02:32:05PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... Sounds like a local DoS attack point to me... As long as /dev/random is readable for all users there's no reason to use /dev/urandom for a local DoS... The original point was that urandom draws

Re: Why does reading from /dev/urandom deplete entropy so much?

2007-12-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 02:32:05PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... Sounds like a local DoS attack point to me... As long as /dev/random is readable for all users there's no reason to use /dev/urandom for a local DoS... The original point was that urandom draws

Re: ICH9 & Core2 Duo - kernel crash

2007-12-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Pavol Cvengros wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Pavol Cvengros wrote: On Thursday 06 December 2007 21:15:53 Bill Davidsen wrote: Pavol Cvengros wrote: Hello, I am trying LKML to get some help on one linux kernel related problem. Lately we got a machine with new HW from Intel. CPU is Intel

Re: ICH9 Core2 Duo - kernel crash

2007-12-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Pavol Cvengros wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Pavol Cvengros wrote: On Thursday 06 December 2007 21:15:53 Bill Davidsen wrote: Pavol Cvengros wrote: Hello, I am trying LKML to get some help on one linux kernel related problem. Lately we got a machine with new HW from Intel. CPU is Intel

Re: 2.6.23.9: x86_64: floppy not working: p35 chipset

2007-12-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
Justin Piszcz wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote: Justin Piszcz wrote: Trying to format a floppy (2-3 of them) on a GA-P35-DS4 2.0 with a regular Sony floppy on Debian x86_64 with kernel 2.6.23.9: # fdformat /dev/fd0 Could not determine current format type: No such device

Re: ICH9 & Core2 Duo - kernel crash

2007-12-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
Pavol Cvengros wrote: On Thursday 06 December 2007 21:15:53 Bill Davidsen wrote: Pavol Cvengros wrote: Hello, I am trying LKML to get some help on one linux kernel related problem. Lately we got a machine with new HW from Intel. CPU is Intel Core2 Duo E6850 3GHz with 2GB of RAM

Re: 2.6.23.9: x86_64: floppy not working: p35 chipset

2007-12-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
help determine that. It certainly was seen at boot time. Didn't get hooked to some SCSI device name by udev, did it? -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -

Re: 2.6.23.9: x86_64: floppy not working: p35 chipset

2007-12-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
Justin Piszcz wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote: Justin Piszcz wrote: Trying to format a floppy (2-3 of them) on a GA-P35-DS4 2.0 with a regular Sony floppy on Debian x86_64 with kernel 2.6.23.9: # fdformat /dev/fd0 Could not determine current format type: No such device

Re: ICH9 Core2 Duo - kernel crash

2007-12-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
Pavol Cvengros wrote: On Thursday 06 December 2007 21:15:53 Bill Davidsen wrote: Pavol Cvengros wrote: Hello, I am trying LKML to get some help on one linux kernel related problem. Lately we got a machine with new HW from Intel. CPU is Intel Core2 Duo E6850 3GHz with 2GB of RAM

Re: 2.6.23.9: x86_64: floppy not working: p35 chipset

2007-12-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
help determine that. It certainly was seen at boot time. Didn't get hooked to some SCSI device name by udev, did it? -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from

Re: [RFC] [PATCH] A clean approach to writeout throttling

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
t's actually needed, and then return some pass/fail status for that particular transaction. Clearly every level in the stack would have to know how to do that. It would seem that once excess memory use was detected the transaction could be failed without deadlock. -- Bill Davidsen &l

Re: [PATCH] bw-qcam: adds parameter aggressive to skip passive detection and directly attempt initialization

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
Brett Warden wrote: On Dec 5, 2007 9:37 AM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Although I would suggest that "aggressive" may not be the best term - I'm not such of a good one however - skip_passive ? How about force_init? Much more descriptive. -- Bill Davidsen &

Re: ICH9 & Core2 Duo - kernel crash

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
Just a thought, but I see people running Linux on that chipset, if not that particular board. A cheap test even if it shows nothing. Of course it could be a CPU cache issue in that one CPU, although that's unlikely. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear fr

Re: Why does reading from /dev/urandom deplete entropy so much?

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
hrottle user + urandom use such that the total stays below the available entropy. I had forgotten that that was a lower bound, although it's kind of an on-off toggle rather than proportional. Clearly if you care about this a *lot* you will use a hardware RNG. Thanks for the reminder on read_wakeup.

Re: Why does reading from /dev/urandom deplete entropy so much?

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
and widely used userspace interface like /dev/urandom" either. Sounds like a local DoS attack point to me... -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsub

Re: Why does reading from /dev/urandom deplete entropy so much?

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
userspace interface like /dev/urandom either. Sounds like a local DoS attack point to me... -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Why does reading from /dev/urandom deplete entropy so much?

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
such that the total stays below the available entropy. I had forgotten that that was a lower bound, although it's kind of an on-off toggle rather than proportional. Clearly if you care about this a *lot* you will use a hardware RNG. Thanks for the reminder on read_wakeup. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ICH9 Core2 Duo - kernel crash

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
a thought, but I see people running Linux on that chipset, if not that particular board. A cheap test even if it shows nothing. Of course it could be a CPU cache issue in that one CPU, although that's unlikely. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling

Re: [PATCH] bw-qcam: adds parameter aggressive to skip passive detection and directly attempt initialization

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
Brett Warden wrote: On Dec 5, 2007 9:37 AM, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I would suggest that aggressive may not be the best term - I'm not such of a good one however - skip_passive ? How about force_init? Much more descriptive. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have

Re: [RFC] [PATCH] A clean approach to writeout throttling

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
for that particular transaction. Clearly every level in the stack would have to know how to do that. It would seem that once excess memory use was detected the transaction could be failed without deadlock. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from

Re: PROBLEM: loadlin incompatible with 2.6.23 kernels

2007-12-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
el is not entirely compatible with the kernel.org releases, although that's rarely a problem. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this lis

Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C

2007-12-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
contract with Intel to provide CPUs with those instructions, and we used them in the Terminet(r) printers. Those were the days ;-) -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be valid when the war is over..." Otto vo

Re: Kernel Development Objective-C

2007-12-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
CPUs with those instructions, and we used them in the Terminet(r) printers. Those were the days ;-) -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be valid when the war is over... Otto von Bismark -- To unsubscribe from this list

Re: PROBLEM: loadlin incompatible with 2.6.23 kernels

2007-12-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
compatible with the kernel.org releases, although that's rarely a problem. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux

Re: Kernel 2.6.23.9 / P35 Chipset + WD 750GB Drives (reset port)

2007-12-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
and after doing this, that's a good idea as well. S.M.A.R.T is your friend. And when writing /dev/zero to a drive, if it craps out you have less emotional attachment to the data. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompeten

Re: Fedora's latest gcc produces unbootable kernels

2007-12-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
iffers. If you are referring to the "compat" RPMs, be aware that they use the current headers, which is a good or bad thing depending on what you want to do. If you want to build old software, you get to keep a down-rev virtual machine to do it right :-( -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAI

Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C

2007-12-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
e(function); Alan (who learned B before C, and is still waiting for P) I had the BCPL book still on the reference shelf in the office, along with goodies like the four candidates to be Ada, and a TRAC manual. I too expected the next language to be "P". -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL

Re: Fedora's latest gcc produces unbootable kernels

2007-12-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
. If you are referring to the compat RPMs, be aware that they use the current headers, which is a good or bad thing depending on what you want to do. If you want to build old software, you get to keep a down-rev virtual machine to do it right :-( -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more

Re: Kernel 2.6.23.9 / P35 Chipset + WD 750GB Drives (reset port)

2007-12-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
and after doing this, that's a good idea as well. S.M.A.R.T is your friend. And when writing /dev/zero to a drive, if it craps out you have less emotional attachment to the data. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from

Re: Kernel Development Objective-C

2007-12-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
); Alan (who learned B before C, and is still waiting for P) I had the BCPL book still on the reference shelf in the office, along with goodies like the four candidates to be Ada, and a TRAC manual. I too expected the next language to be P. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more

Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C

2007-11-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
on floppy. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Re: Kernel Development Objective-C

2007-11-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
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