Re: obsolete code must die

2001-06-14 Thread James Sutherland
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > Would it make sense to create some sort of 'make config' script that > > determines what you want in your kernel and then downloads only those > > components? After all, with the constant release of new hardware, isn't a > > 50MB kernel release not too far

Re: Gigabit Intel NIC? - Intel Gigabit Ethernet Pro/1000T

2001-06-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 03:25:22AM -0700, Ion Badulescu wrote: > > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 03:25:22 -0700 > > From: Ion Badulescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Riley Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: Shawn Starr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > I just had one of the "3com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC with 3XP processor" > > float accross my desk, I was wondering how much the linux kernel uses the > > 3xp processor for its encryption offloading and such. According to the > > hype it does

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-09 Thread James Sutherland
On 9 Jun 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By author:"Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > > > But in spite of all this, you're not really measure the critical > > > temperature, which is junction tempature. Yes, case

Re: Please help me fill in the blanks.

2001-05-27 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 26 May 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Cesar Da Silva wrote: > > The features that I'm wondering about are: > > * Dynamic Processor Resilience > > is this fault tolerance? I think if a CPU croaks, you are dead. > > There are patches for hot swap cpu support, but I haven't seen any CPU > fault

Re: Fwd: Copyright infringement in linux/drivers/usb/serial/keyspan*fw.h

2001-05-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Adam J. Richter wrote: > Larry McVoy wrote: > >On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 07:34:57PM -0700, Adam J. Richter wrote: > >It's also about the concept of boundaries - if you think that that > >concept is not a legal one then why aren't all programs which are run > >on top of a GPLed

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-17 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Patrick Michael Kane wrote: > * Pavel Machek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010217 05:40]: > > Being able to remotely resed machine with crashed userland would be > > *very* nice, too... > > If it provides a true remote console, enable SYSRQ and youi should get this > for free. Yes,

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:35:02PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Carlos Fernandez Sanz wrote: > > > I did some research on the patent database and found nothing regarding such > > > a patent. There's patent on word processors (

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Carlos Fernandez Sanz wrote: > I did some research on the patent database and found nothing regarding such > a patent. There's patent on word processors (not the concept but related to) > and uses tab on the description...and that patent is from 1980. Perhaps that's it, then

RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, David D.W. Downey wrote: > Would someone tell me where you get all this lovely information on > patents held by M$? I can't find anything. Sorry, it's *IBM* who are said to hold a patent on the tab key. Legend has it Microsoft once found a patent of theirs which IBM appeare

RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Alan Olsen wrote: > > > I expect the next thing that will happen is that they will get > > patents on key portions of their protocols and then start > > enforcing them. > > If Microsoft would start pissing off IBM and other major >

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > Jeff Garzik wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > > > I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables > > > over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on > > > immediately. > > > > > > Would t

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > > That would explain me seeing way too many collisions on that old hub > > > (which obviously doesn't support full-duplex). > > > > No, it would just prevent your card working. Larg

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Helge Hafting wrote: > They are wrong about linux stifling innovation, there is plenty of > innovation in linux itself. Indeed. If Linux did nothing new, what do they have to fear?! > On the other hand: > ''I can't imagine something that could be worse than this > for the

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables > over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on > immediately. That's what you would expect: they will auto-negotiate full duplex, in the same

Re: [patch] 2.4.2-pre3: parport_pc init_module bug

2001-02-14 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Tim Waugh wrote: > > Here's a patch that fixes a bug that can cause PCI driver list > > corruption. If parport_pc's init_module fails after it calls > > pci_register_driver, cleanup_module isn't called and so it's still > > registere

Re: Is this the ultimate stack-smash fix?

2001-02-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Jeremy Jackson wrote: (Long description of how to create a non-executable stack on x86) I'm afraid you just reinvented the wheel. The idea has been around for a long time, and it was OK as a quick hack to stop existing exploits working, but it's possible to modify a buffer o

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Russell King wrote: > James Sutherland writes: > > If the kernel starts spewing data faster than you can send it to the far > > end, either the data gets dropped, or you block the kernel. Having the > > kernel hang waiting to send a printk to the far

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > That's the whole crux of the matter. For something like this, you *will* > > drop data under certain circumstances. I suspect it's better to have > > this done in a controlled manner, rather than stop completely, which is > > what TCP would do. > > Why

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-12 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > > > > > Depends on what the client can handle. For the kernel, that might be > > > true, but for example a boot loader may only have a few K worth of buffer > > > space. > > &g

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-12 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > > Explain 'controlled buffer overrun'. > > > > > > That's probably the ability to send new data even if there's unacked old > > > data (e.g. because the receiver can't keep up or because we've had losses). > > > > Well let m

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-12 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > > My thinking at the moment is to require kernel IP configuration (either > ip= or RARP/BOOTP/DHCP). It seems to be the only practical way; > otherwise you miss too much at the beginning. However,

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-12 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > > I have toyed a few times about having a simple Ethernet- or UDP-based > > > console protocol (TCP is too heavyweight, sorry) where a machine would > > > seek out a console server on the network. Anyone has any ideas about > > > it? > > > > Excellent pl

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-12 Thread James Sutherland
On 12 Feb 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By author:Ivan Passos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > Since I still want to add support for speeds up to 115200, the other two > > questions are still up (see below): > > > > > - If not,

Re: making forward at vger.rutgers.org? [was Re: maestro3 patch,resent]

2001-02-12 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > duh. I sent this to rutgers originally.. > > I'm doing same mistake over and over. > > Perhaps creating forward at vger.rutgers.edu would be good thing (tm)? Apparently the rutgers.edu people didn't like this idea... If they'd been feelin

Re: [OT] Major Clock Drift

2001-02-12 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > > queued_writes=1; > > > return; > > > > Just what happens when you run out of dmesg ring in an interrupt ? > > You lose a couple of lines. Big deal. I'd rather lose two lines a year on > a problem (and the dmesg ring

Re: [Kiobuf-io-devel] RFC: Kernel mechanism: Compound event wait

2001-02-08 Thread James Sutherland
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Mikulas Patocka wrote: > > > > > You need aio_open. > > > Could you explain this? > > > > If the server is sending many small files, disk spends huge > > amount time walking directory tree and seeking to inodes. Maybe > > opening th

Re: freshmeat editorial on journaling filesystems

2001-02-07 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Ray Strode wrote: > >We'd like to run an editorial this coming Saturday about the > >journaling filesystems available for Linux. We'd like an author who > >isn't a developer on any of them so he/she can give an object analysis > >of the pros and cons of each and share thought

Re: [reiserfs-list] ReiserFS Oops (2.4.1, deterministic, symlink related)

2001-02-05 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Hans Reiser wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > In an __init function, have some code that will trigger the bug. > > > This can be used to disable Reiserfs if the compiler was bad. > > > Then the admin gets a printk() and the Reiserfs mount fails. > > > > Thats actually quite

Re: Better battery info/status files

2001-02-04 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Steve Underwood wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Ben Ford wrote: > > > David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, James Sutherland wrote: > > > > > > > > > For the end-user, the ability

Re: Better battery info/status files

2001-02-04 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Ben Ford wrote: > David Woodhouse wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, James Sutherland wrote: > > > > > For the end-user, the ability to see readings in other units would be > > > useful - how many people on this list work in litres/metr

Re: Better battery info/status files

2001-02-04 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Russell King wrote: > Albert D. Cahalan writes: > > The units seem to vary. I suggest using fundamental SI units. > > That would be meters, kilograms, seconds, and maybe a very > > few others -- my memory fails me on this. > > iirc, SI comes from France, and therefore it shou

Re: sendfile+zerocopy: fairly sexy (nothing to do with ECN)

2001-02-02 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, David Lang wrote: > Thanks, that info on sendfile makes sense for the fileserver situation. > for webservers we will have to see (many/most CGI's look at stuff from the > client so I still have doubts as to how much use cacheing will be) CGI performance isn't directly affecte

Re: [reiserfs-list] Re: ReiserFS Oops (2.4.1, deterministic, symlink

2001-02-02 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Hans Reiser wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > It makes sense to refuse to build a piece of the kernel if it break's > > > a machine - anything else is a timebomb waiting to explode. > > > > The logical conclusion of that is to replace the entire kernel tree with > > > > #er

Re: reiserfs min size (was: [2.4.1] mkreiserfs on loopdevice freezeskernel)

2001-01-31 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:24:39AM +0000, James Sutherland wrote: > > 32 megaBLOCK?? How big is it in Mbytes? > > Blocksize is 4k, mkreiserfs in my version is telling me it can not generate > partitions smaller than 32M but it is n

Re: BUG

2001-01-31 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Grzegorz Sojka wrote: > I am using kernel v2.4.0 on Abit BP6 with two Intel Pentium Celeron > 366@517Mhz + video based on Riva TNT2 M64 32Mb + network card 3com 3c905b > + Creative Sound Blaster 64 pnp isa and hercules video card. I'm geting > all over the time messages like

Re: CPU error codes

2001-01-31 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > > In the intel databook. Generally an MCE indicates hardware/power/cooling > > > issues > > > > Doesn't an MCE also cover some hardware memory problems - parity/ECC > > issues etc? > > Parity/ECC on main memory is reported by the chipset and needs sepera

Re: Version 2.4.1 cannot be built.

2001-01-31 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: > > > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > > > The subject says it all. `make dep`

Re: Request: increase in PCI bus limit

2001-01-31 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Timur Tabi wrote: > ** Reply to message from Christopher Neufeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 30 > Jan 2001 16:08:32 -0800 > > > > Would it be possible to bump it up to 128, or even > > 256, in later 2.4.* kernel releases? That would allow this customer to > > work with an

Re: Linux Disk Performance/File IO per process

2001-01-29 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, List User wrote: > Just wanted to 'chime' in here. Yes this would be noisy and will have > an affect on system performance however these statistics are what are > used in conjunction with several others to size systems as well as to > plan on growth. If Linux is to be put i

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, jamal wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, James Sutherland wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, jamal wrote: > > > There were people who made the suggestion that TCP should retry after a > > > RST because it "might be an anti-ECN path" > > &

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > James Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, jamal wrote: > >> The internet is a form of organized chaos, sometimes you gotta make > >>

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Ben Ford wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > > I'm sure we all know what the IETF is, and where ECN came from. I haven't > > seen anyone suggesting ignoring RST, either: DM just imagined that, > > AFAICS. > > > > The o

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, jamal wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, James Sutherland wrote: > > > I'm sure we all know what the IETF is, and where ECN came from. I haven't > > seen anyone suggesting ignoring RST, either: DM just imagined that, > > AFAICS. > > The em

Re: ps hang in 241-pre10

2001-01-28 Thread James Sutherland
On 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend. > > Does anybody have a clue about what is different with xmms? > > Does it use KNI if it can, for example?

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread James Sutherland
I'm sure we all know what the IETF is, and where ECN came from. I haven't seen anyone suggesting ignoring RST, either: DM just imagined that, AFAICS. The one point I would like to make, though, is that firewalls are NOT "brain-damaged" for blocking ECN: according to the RFCs governing firewalls,

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-28 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 11:09:27PM +0000, James Sutherland wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, David Schwartz wrote: > > > > > > > > > Firewalling should be implemented on the hosts, perhaps with centralized

RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-27 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, David Schwartz wrote: > > > Firewalling should be implemented on the hosts, perhaps with centralized > > policy management. In such a situation, there would be no reason to filter > > on funny IP options. > > That's madness. If you have to implement your firewalling o

Re: RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > On 2001-01-26T16:04:03, >"Randal, Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > We may be right, "they" may be wrong, but in the real world > > arrogance rarely wins anyone friends. > > So you also turn of PMTU and just set the MTU to 200 bytes becau

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > On 2001-01-26T15:08:21, > James Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Obviously. The connection is now dead. However, trying to make a new > > connection with different settings is perfectly reasonable. > &g

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > James Sutherland writes: > > I was not suggesting ignoring these. OTOH, there is no reason to treat an > > RST packet as "go away and never ever send traffic to this host again" - > > i.e. trying another TCP connecti

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > > James Sutherland writes: > > A delayed retry without ECN might be a good compromise... > > > > Every single connection to ECN-broken sites would work as normal - it > > would just take an extra few second

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > On 2001-01-26T11:40:36, > James Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > A delayed retry without ECN might be a good compromise... > > _NO!_ Why? As it stands, I have ECN disabled. It's staying disabled

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > > Matti Aarnio writes: > > But could you nevertheless consider supplying a socket option for it ? > > By all means default it per sysctl, but allow clearing/setting by > > program too. > > No, because then people will do the wrong thing. >

Re: hotmail can't deal with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > Some of the MX records that show up for hotmail.com go > to different machines, such as INKY.SOLINUS.COM which seems > to let ECN connections through just fine. Ahh.. In which case, *@hotmail.com list subscribers should still get their mail OK - it w

Re: Linux 2.2.16 through 2.2.18preX TCP hang bug triggered by rsync

2001-01-25 Thread James Sutherland
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > > Andi Kleen writes: > > It's mostly for security to make it more difficult to nuke connections > > without knowing the sequence number. > > > > Remember RFC is from a very different internet with much less DoS attacks. > > Andi, one of the wor

Re: Linux 2.2.16 through 2.2.18preX TCP hang bug triggered by rsync

2001-01-25 Thread James Sutherland
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Matthias Andree wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > It's mostly for security to make it more difficult to nuke connections > > without knowing the sequence number. > > > > Remember RFC is from a very different internet with much less DoS attacks. > > If y

Re: Is sendfile all that sexy?

2001-01-25 Thread James Sutherland
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, bert hubert wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:06:33AM +0000, James Sutherland wrote: > > > performance than it would for an httpd, because of the long-lived > > sessions, but rewriting it as a state machine (no forking, threads or > > other crap, j

Re: CPU error codes

2001-01-25 Thread James Sutherland
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > I was wondering if someone could tell me where I can find > > Xeon Pentium III cpu error messages/codes > > In the intel databook. Generally an MCE indicates hardware/power/cooling > issues Doesn't an MCE also cover some hardware memory problems - parity

Re: Is sendfile all that sexy?

2001-01-25 Thread James Sutherland
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > I think, that is not what we need. Once Ingo wrote, that since HTTP > > serving can also be viewed as a kind of fileserving, it should be > > possible to create a TUX like module for the same framwork, that serves > > using the SMB protocol instead of H

Re: Is sendfile all that sexy?

2001-01-24 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Sasi Peter wrote: > > AIUI, Jeff Merkey was working on loading "userspace" apps into the > kernel > > to tackle this sort of problem generically. I don't know if he's > tried it > > with Samba - the forking would probably be a problem... > > I think, that is not what we ne

Re: Is sendfile all that sexy?

2001-01-24 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Sasi Peter wrote: > On 14 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > The only obvious use for it is file serving, and as high-performance > > file serving tends to end up as a kernel module in the end anyway (the > > only hold-out is samba, and that's been discussed too), "sendfi

Re: Is sendfile all that sexy?

2001-01-23 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Helge Hafting wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > > > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Helge Hafting wrote: > > > > > And when the next user wants the same webpage/file you read it from > > > the RAID again? Seems to me you loose the benefit of

Re: Is sendfile all that sexy?

2001-01-22 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Helge Hafting wrote: > And when the next user wants the same webpage/file you read it from > the RAID again? Seems to me you loose the benefit of caching stuff in > memory with this scheme. Sure - the RAID controller might have some > cache, but it is usually smaller than mai

Re: Is sendfile all that sexy?

2001-01-21 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Roman Zippel wrote: > > > > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > But point-to-point also means that you don't get any real advantage from > > > doing things like device-to-device DMA. Because the links are > > >

Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]]

2001-01-20 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Lincoln Dale wrote: > hi, > > At 04:56 PM 20/01/2001 +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (dean gaudet) wrote on 18.01.01 in > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > i'm pretty sure the actual use of pipelining is pretty disappointing. > > > the work i did in apache preced

Re: ext3 vs. JFS file locations...

2000-11-05 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > Dominik Kubla writes: > > On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 11:33:10AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > [about IBM's JFS and ext3 both wanting to put code in fs/jfs] > > >> How about naming it something that doesn't end in -fs, such as > >> "journal" or "jfs

Re: syslog() blocks on glibc 2.1.3 with kernel 2.2.x

2000-10-29 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Jesse Pollard wrote: > On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Stephen Harris wrote: > >Horst von Brand wrote: > > > >> > > If you send SIGSTOP to syslogd on a Red Hat 6.2 system (glibc 2.1.3, > >> > > kernel 2.2.x), within a few minutes you will find your entire machine > >> > > grinds to a ha

Re: guarantee_memory() syscall?

2000-10-29 Thread James Sutherland
On 29 Oct 2000, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Can anyone tell me about the viability of a guarantee_memory() syscall? > > > > [I'm thinking: it would either kill the process, or allocate all virtual > > memory needed for its shared libraries, buffers,

RE: GPL Question

2000-10-27 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, David Schwartz wrote: > > > Now, if a module is loaded that registers a set of functions that have > > increased functionality compared to the original functions, if that > > modules is not based off GPL'd code, must the source code of that module > > be released under the G

re: K6-2+ name (was Re: AMD CPU misdetection?)

2000-10-24 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In the words of Barry K. Nathan : > > > > Why they didn't call it K6-4 is anyones guess. > > I read somewhere (I don't have a URL handy, sorry) that the reason AMD > > went with K6-2+ is that, apparently, the K6-2 name is well-known, and > > they wa

Re: [patch] 2.4 version of my duplicate IP and MAC detection patch

2000-10-18 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Come on, Andi, it's not. You do DAD, you get your IP, I plug my laptop, use > > your IP, you don't even know it. My patch lets you know. > > The reason I wrote it is that I've seen this happen too many times already. > > Als

Re: [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 & OOM handler

2000-10-09 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Ingo Molnar wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > > > > so dns helper is killed first, then netscape. (my idea might not > > > make sense though.) > > > > It makes some sense, but I don't think OOM is something that > > occurs often enough to care about it /that

Re: Linux kernel modules development in C++

2000-09-29 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Daniel Phillips wrote: > Marty Fouts wrote: > > My own opinion is that no, the nominal cost of standards documents has > > little to do with why programmers don't have complete and up to date > > definitions of the language. > > I can't change your opinion but I can tell you

Re: AW: Given an image, how can show its config?

2000-09-27 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, David Ford wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > > No. I am assuming you are installing the kernel on the machine you do > > "make modules_install" on. Obviously it is possible to install a different > > kernel image of the same version wit

Re: AW: Given an image, how can show its config?

2000-09-27 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Butter, Frank wrote: > > How about putting these files in the modules directory? That > > way, we have > > a nice consistent location for them. > > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/System.map etc. is a fair > > approximation, but > > you lose that every time the kernel source

Re: SCO: "thread creation is about a thousand times faster than onnative Linux"

2000-09-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > > But if you can get rid of the stacks, and you _can_ get rid of the > > stacks sometimes, then why not have one thread per widget in a GUI? Or > > one thread per animated objected on a web page? Some notions of > For this to work without opening

Re: [DOC] Debugging early kernel hangs

2000-09-25 Thread James Sutherland
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Russell King wrote: > James Sutherland writes: > > On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Russell King wrote: > > > And I'll try to make the point a second time that everything does not have > > > a character-based screen to write to. > > > > So wh

Re: [DOC] Debugging early kernel hangs

2000-09-24 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Russell King wrote: > Keith Owens writes: > > Something I forgot to mention about debugging using screen writes. If > > the problem is caused by incorrect compiler output then even printk can > > fail. Not because the C code is wrong but because the generated > > assembler

Re: Given an image, how can show its config?

2000-09-24 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Keith Owens wrote: > On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:33:31 +0200, > Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'd just like to remind you of Alan Cox's suggestion about appending > >.config.gz to bzImage so that it doesn't get loaded into memory, and > >my suggestion to put Syste

Re: 2.2.17 crashes with RTL8139B and/or IPv6

2000-09-20 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Marco Colombo wrote: > On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Simon Richter wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I just upgraded our server (486DX2/120, running 186 days`) with a 100MBit > ^^ > isn't it overclocked? >From the CPU identification given later, it is sai

Re: /proc/sys/vm/freepages not writable.

2000-09-18 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Evan Jeffrey wrote: > > > > 1. The inactive_target is 1 second worth of allocations, minus > > >the amount of frees in 1 second, averaged over a minute > > > > So it cannot take load bursts. That's ok for a default, but for special loads > > it would be good if there wa

Re: (reiserfs) Re: More on 2.2.18pre2aa2

2000-09-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Giuliano Pochini wrote: > I wrote, then got air-brushed out of the thread?! > > That's one approach; I prefer my "weighted scoring" approach. Supposing we > > have three devices: a solid state disk (instant "seeks"), a hard drive and > > a tape. The SSD will benefit from merg

Re: (reiserfs) Re: More on 2.2.18pre2aa2

2000-09-14 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Ragnar Kjørstad wrote: > This (IMHO) is wrong. When the drive has trouble keeping up > with requests in FCFS order, we should do some elevator sorting > to keep throughput high enough to deal with the requests we get. Reversing that

Re: (reiserfs) Re: More on 2.2.18pre2aa2

2000-09-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Mitchell Blank Jr wrote: > > >The "large queue" goes against the whole point of this exercise - that > >is that if there are many items in the "queue" being sorted then > >unlucky requests can end up waiting a long time to get s

Re: (reiserfs) Re: More on 2.2.18pre2aa2

2000-09-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Mitchell Blank Jr wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > In terms of latency, I'd suggest we aim to keep the device in use all the > > time we have outstanding requests: every time the device is ready to > > accept a request, we feed it the "next

Re: (reiserfs) Re: More on 2.2.18pre2aa2

2000-09-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Mitchell Blank Jr wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: > > > Yes, but "how hard is it reasonable for the kernel to try" is based on > > > both items. A good first order approximation is number of requests. > > > > I must strongly disagree with that claim. A request could be 512 bytes o