Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregistertable

2001-06-06 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Richard Gooch wrote: > David S. Miller writes: > > Matt D. Robinson writes: > > > > This allows people to make proprietary implementations of TCP under > > > > Linux. And we don't want this just as we don't want to add a way to > > > &g

Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregister table

2001-06-06 Thread Matt D. Robinson
"David S. Miller" wrote: > > La Monte H.P. Yarroll writes: > > Matt D. Robinson writes: > > > Is there any way to add in the capability to _replace_ TCP with > > > your own, so you can use your own layer? > > ABSOLUTELY NOT! > > A

Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregister table

2001-06-06 Thread Matt D. Robinson
David S. Miller wrote: La Monte H.P. Yarroll writes: Matt D. Robinson writes: Is there any way to add in the capability to _replace_ TCP with your own, so you can use your own layer? ABSOLUTELY NOT! And I will never in my lifetime allow such a facility to be added

Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregistertable

2001-06-06 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Richard Gooch wrote: David S. Miller writes: Matt D. Robinson writes: This allows people to make proprietary implementations of TCP under Linux. And we don't want this just as we don't want to add a way to allow someone to do a proprietary Linux VM. And if as Joe User I

Re: smp_send_stop() and disable_local_APIC()

2001-05-04 Thread Matt D. Robinson
"Eric W. Biederman" wrote: > > "Matt D. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It looks like around 2.3.30 or so, someone added the call > > disable_local_APIC() to smp_send_stop(). I'm not sure what the > > intention was, but I'

Re: smp_send_stop() and disable_local_APIC()

2001-05-04 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Eric W. Biederman wrote: Matt D. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It looks like around 2.3.30 or so, someone added the call disable_local_APIC() to smp_send_stop(). I'm not sure what the intention was, but I'm getting some strange behavior as a result based on some code I'm

smp_send_stop() and disable_local_APIC()

2001-05-03 Thread Matt D. Robinson
It looks like around 2.3.30 or so, someone added the call disable_local_APIC() to smp_send_stop(). I'm not sure what the intention was, but I'm getting some strange behavior as a result based on some code I'm writing. Basically, I'm doing the following ... panic() { /* do

smp_send_stop() and disable_local_APIC()

2001-05-03 Thread Matt D. Robinson
It looks like around 2.3.30 or so, someone added the call disable_local_APIC() to smp_send_stop(). I'm not sure what the intention was, but I'm getting some strange behavior as a result based on some code I'm writing. Basically, I'm doing the following ... panic() { /* do

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Werner Almesberger wrote: > > Matt D. Robinson wrote: > > My feeling is we should splinter the kernel development for > > different purposes (enterprise, UP, security, etc.). I'm sure > > it isn't a popular view, but I feel it would allow faster progression >

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Matt D. Robinson
"Mike A. Harris" wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Matt D. Robinson wrote: > > >The day the Linux kernel splinters into multiple, distinct efforts is the > >day I'll believe the kernel is fully into progress over "preference". Right > >now, Alan accepts

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Matt D. Robinson
The day the Linux kernel splinters into multiple, distinct efforts is the day I'll believe the kernel is fully into progress over "preference". Right now, Alan accepts what he thinks should go into stable kernels, and Linus accepts what he thinks should go into future kernels. I'm not saying

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Matt D. Robinson
The day the Linux kernel splinters into multiple, distinct efforts is the day I'll believe the kernel is fully into progress over "preference". Right now, Alan accepts what he thinks should go into stable kernels, and Linus accepts what he thinks should go into future kernels. I'm not saying

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Matt D. Robinson
"Mike A. Harris" wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Matt D. Robinson wrote: The day the Linux kernel splinters into multiple, distinct efforts is the day I'll believe the kernel is fully into progress over "preference". Right now, Alan accepts what he thinks should go

[ANNOUNCE] LKCD 3.1 For 2.4.{0,1} Available

2001-02-08 Thread Matt D. Robinson
The latest LKCD (Linux Kernel Crash Dumps) patches/RPMs/etc. are available for download for linux-2.4.{0,1} kernels. You can get LKCD from: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/lkcd/download/current/ Please E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have any questions/problems. Thanks. --Matt - To

[ANNOUNCE] LKCD 3.1 For 2.4.{0,1} Available

2001-02-08 Thread Matt D. Robinson
The latest LKCD (Linux Kernel Crash Dumps) patches/RPMs/etc. are available for download for linux-2.4.{0,1} kernels. You can get LKCD from: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/lkcd/download/current/ Please E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have any questions/problems. Thanks. --Matt - To

Re: Partition IDs in the New World TM

2001-01-23 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Andreas Dilger wrote: > > H. Peter Anvin writes: > > We have: > > > >0x82 - Linux swap > >0x83 - Linux filesystem > >0x85 - Linux extended partition (yes, this one does matter!) > > > > There seems to be some value in having a different value for swap. It > > lets an automatic

Re: Partition IDs in the New World TM

2001-01-23 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Andreas Dilger wrote: H. Peter Anvin writes: We have: 0x82 - Linux swap 0x83 - Linux filesystem 0x85 - Linux extended partition (yes, this one does matter!) There seems to be some value in having a different value for swap. It lets an automatic program find a

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Werner Almesberger wrote: > > Alexander Viro wrote: > > In the situation above they should have -I/include > > in CFLAGS. Always had to. No links, no pain in ass, no interference with > > userland compiles. > > As long as there's a standard location for "", > this is fine. In most cases, the

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Werner Almesberger wrote: Alexander Viro wrote: In the situation above they should have -Iwherever_the_tree_lives/include in CFLAGS. Always had to. No links, no pain in ass, no interference with userland compiles. As long as there's a standard location for "wherever_the_tree_lives",

Re: LKCD from SGI

2000-11-22 Thread Matt D. Robinson
64738 wrote: > > Hi. > > I tried to find some information on whether the Linux Kernel Crash Dumps > patches are going into 2.4 (or 2.5). Has there been any decision? LKCD won't go into 2.4 (or 2.5) until I finish writing the direct disk open/write functions that avoid going through the

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-15 Thread Matt D. Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, not necessarily so while lkcd is not get accepted into the standard > > kernel source. [..] > > It won't until it uses a separate driver that doesn't depend on scsi or > ide layer. We're working on it ... can't quit my day job, you know ... :) --Matt - To

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-15 Thread Matt D. Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, not necessarily so while lkcd is not get accepted into the standard kernel source. [..] It won't until it uses a separate driver that doesn't depend on scsi or ide layer. We're working on it ... can't quit my day job, you know ... :) --Matt - To

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-10 Thread Matt D. Robinson
"Theodore Y. Ts'o" wrote: > >Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:36:31 -0800 >From: "Matt D. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >As soon as I finish writing raw write disk routines (not using kiobufs), >we can _maybe_ get LKCD accepted one of t

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-10 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Christoph Rohland wrote: > > Hi Theodore, > > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > > P.S. There are some such RAS features which I wouldn't be surprised > > there being interest in having integrated into the kernel directly > > post-2.4, with no need to put in "kernel hooks" for that

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-10 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Christoph Rohland wrote: Hi Theodore, On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: P.S. There are some such RAS features which I wouldn't be surprised there being interest in having integrated into the kernel directly post-2.4, with no need to put in "kernel hooks" for that

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-10 Thread Matt D. Robinson
"Theodore Y. Ts'o" wrote: Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:36:31 -0800 From: "Matt D. Robinson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] As soon as I finish writing raw write disk routines (not using kiobufs), we can _maybe_ get LKCD accepted one of these days, especially now th

Re: Linux RAS

2000-09-15 Thread Matt D. Robinson
I'd also want the default kernel build to create a symbol table namelist object that gets installed into $(INSTALL_PATH) that correlates to the kernel build. That way you build a symbol table mechanism for user-space applications that want more complete kernel debug information, but do it

Re: Linux RAS

2000-09-15 Thread Matt D. Robinson
I'd also want the default kernel build to create a symbol table namelist object that gets installed into $(INSTALL_PATH) that correlates to the kernel build. That way you build a symbol table mechanism for user-space applications that want more complete kernel debug information, but do it

Re: Kernel Debugging Documentation

2000-09-07 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > Back in May I wrote a quite estensive documentation about all the > possible/best ways to debug the Linux Kernel for a talk/tranining that I > did in San Jose in May. I find now the time to clean it up and to upload > since I think it could result useful to everybody

Re: Kernel Debugging Documentation

2000-09-07 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Andrea Arcangeli wrote: Back in May I wrote a quite estensive documentation about all the possible/best ways to debug the Linux Kernel for a talk/tranining that I did in San Jose in May. I find now the time to clean it up and to upload since I think it could result useful to everybody

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-06 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Try LKCD. --Matt Gregory Maxwell wrote: > If this is your primary argument for a kernel debugger, a 'crash dump tool > with extra controls', then why not just cleanly implement a 'crash dump > tool with extra controls'. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-06 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > > What would a debugger have done? > > > > Let the end user give me essential answers on what was happening at the failure > > point. Think of it as a crash dump tool with extra controls > > Sure. I just don't see many

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-06 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Try LKCD. --Matt Gregory Maxwell wrote: If this is your primary argument for a kernel debugger, a 'crash dump tool with extra controls', then why not just cleanly implement a 'crash dump tool with extra controls'. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in

Re: If loadable modules are covered by Linux GPL?

2000-08-29 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Mike Coleman wrote: > "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Even M$ doesn't require that I give proprietary information away. > > If Linux wants to become the new standard for the computing industry, > > GPL or whatever can't claim any ownership of the work a company > > has done

Re: If loadable modules are covered by Linux GPL?

2000-08-29 Thread Matt D. Robinson
I agree with Simon here. I'd personally like to see some form of GNU GPL Loadable Module Compliance Standard for all loadable modules. It isn't enough to go with the loose interpretation of the GNU GPL as it applies to inclusion of header files, system call interfaces, re-defined function