Re: [PATCH] x86: add the debugfs interface for the sysprof tool

2008-02-23 Thread Nicholas Miell
gt; don't see how oprofile can do that as it tracks instruction pointers only. > > Pekka You could try passing the --callgraph option to opcontrol. -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kerne

Re: [PATCH] x86: add the debugfs interface for the sysprof tool

2008-02-23 Thread Nicholas Miell
only. Pekka You could try passing the --callgraph option to opcontrol. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost Tracing

2008-01-02 Thread Nicholas Miell
C++ name mangling would be extremely useful here. Actually, why isn't the DWARF information for the functions sufficient? -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PATCH 2/2] Markers Implementation for Preempt RCU Boost Tracing

2008-01-02 Thread Nicholas Miell
? -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C

2007-11-30 Thread Nicholas Miell
y); t->fn2(x, y); } generate instruction-for-instruction identical code. -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Kernel Development Objective-C

2007-11-30 Thread Nicholas Miell
fn2(int x, int y); int x, y; }; void testCall(struct test *t, int x, int y) { t-fn1(x, y); t-fn2(x, y); } generate instruction-for-instruction identical code. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL

Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround

2007-11-02 Thread Nicholas Miell
D namespaces on the same machine via a shared file mapping is logically equivalent to accessing the same robust futex from different machines via a shared filesystem and there's no reason to expect either operation to work correctly. -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from

Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround

2007-11-02 Thread Nicholas Miell
equivalent to accessing the same robust futex from different machines via a shared filesystem and there's no reason to expect either operation to work correctly. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Re: Linux 2.6.23

2007-10-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 12:14 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does CFS still generate the following sysbench graphs with 2.6.23, or > > did that get fixed? > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/linux-pgsq

Re: Linux 2.6.23

2007-10-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
t fixed? http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/linux-pgsql.png http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/linux-mysql.png (There's also some interesting FreeBSD vs. Linux graphs in http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/Scalability%20Update.pdf , but AFAIK those comparisons are more indicative of glibc m

Re: Linux 2.6.23

2007-10-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
/scaling/linux-mysql.png (There's also some interesting FreeBSD vs. Linux graphs in http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/Scalability%20Update.pdf , but AFAIK those comparisons are more indicative of glibc malloc performance than Linux performance.) -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Linux 2.6.23

2007-10-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 12:14 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: * Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does CFS still generate the following sysbench graphs with 2.6.23, or did that get fixed? http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/linux-pgsql.png http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling

Re: Syba 8-Port Serial Card Unidentified By Kernel

2007-10-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
/sys/bus/pci/drivers/serial/new_id and let Russell King ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) know if it works (or if it doesn't, for that matter). -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Syba 8-Port Serial Card Unidentified By Kernel

2007-10-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
, for that matter). -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Out of memory management in embedded systems

2007-09-28 Thread Nicholas Miell
want to > send to userspace programs. It would also be useful to inform > userspace programs when we are about to start swapping something > out, so userspace can discard cached data instead of having to > wait for disk IO in the future. > > A unix signal cannot encapsulate two diffe

Re: Out of memory management in embedded systems

2007-09-28 Thread Nicholas Miell
field and be delivered via a signalfd. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http

Re: Should parent's WIFSIGNALED(siginfo->si_status) be true EVEN IF the SIGNAL was caught by the child?

2007-09-22 Thread Nicholas Miell
IX says WIFSIGNALED(stat_val) Evaluates to a non-zero value if status was returned for a child process that terminated due to the receipt of a signal that was not caught (see ). So there's no dilemma at all and Linux is non-conformant. -- Nicholas Miell &

Re: Should parent's WIFSIGNALED(siginfo-si_status) be true EVEN IF the SIGNAL was caught by the child?

2007-09-22 Thread Nicholas Miell
if status was returned for a child process that terminated due to the receipt of a signal that was not caught (see signal.h). So there's no dilemma at all and Linux is non-conformant. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe

Re: [RFC] FUSE: mnotify (was: [RFC] VFS: mnotify)

2007-08-12 Thread Nicholas Miell
design it inspired rather than of inotify itself. Come up with a filesystem where given an inode you can find every directory that has links to that inode with very little effort, convince everybody to switch from ext3 to this new filesystem, and then maybe inotify could start doing recursive sub

Re: [RFC] FUSE: mnotify (was: [RFC] VFS: mnotify)

2007-08-12 Thread Nicholas Miell
, convince everybody to switch from ext3 to this new filesystem, and then maybe inotify could start doing recursive subtree watches. Otherwise, it's just not feasible. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body

Re: [PATCH 7/8] i386: bitops: Kill needless usage of __asm__ __volatile__

2007-07-23 Thread Nicholas Miell
t it also affects the instruction count the inline heuristics > > use? > > AFAIK it counts like one operand. > > -Andi GCC counts newlines and semicolons and uses that number as the likely instruction count. See asm_insn_count() in gcc/gcc/final.c -- Nicholas Miell <[E

Re: [PATCH 7/8] i386: bitops: Kill needless usage of __asm__ __volatile__

2007-07-23 Thread Nicholas Miell
operand. -Andi GCC counts newlines and semicolons and uses that number as the likely instruction count. See asm_insn_count() in gcc/gcc/final.c -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Re: *at syscalls for xattrs?

2007-07-15 Thread Nicholas Miell
t.) It does not take a file descriptor for the file argument. > > Otherwise we'd also need fopenat/funlinkat, etc. Any reasons? > > Ulrich having an odd taste? Solaris compatibility. -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "uns

Re: *at syscalls for xattrs?

2007-07-15 Thread Nicholas Miell
need fopenat/funlinkat, etc. Any reasons? Ulrich having an odd taste? Solaris compatibility. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org

Re: [patch 2/3] MAP_NOZERO - implement sys_brk2()

2007-06-27 Thread Nicholas Miell
S namespaces but have equivalent security identity according to LSM. Process A reads data from file F which is not visible in process's B's namespace. You have to prevent process B from ever getting a page that once contained data from file F. 3) mlock() is often used by programs like GPG to

Re: [patch 2/3] MAP_NOZERO - implement sys_brk2()

2007-06-27 Thread Nicholas Miell
swapped out. You need to zero all once-mlocked pages before they get reused to prevent that page from getting swapped to disk or application bugs from leaking the key. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message

Re: Fix signalfd interaction with thread-private signals

2007-06-23 Thread Nicholas Miell
and it may even simplify the code. > That is what I was suggesting, but I don't understand the internals of Linux signal delivery enough to know if it is possible without unpleasant contortions to make it work. -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: sen

Re: Fix signalfd interaction with thread-private signals

2007-06-23 Thread Nicholas Miell
delivery enough to know if it is possible without unpleasant contortions to make it work. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo

Re: Fix signalfd interaction with thread-private signals

2007-06-22 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 17:12 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > You could just get rid of the process/sighand/whatever reference > > entirely and just make reads on a signalfd always dequeue signals for > > the

Re: Fix signalfd interaction with thread-private signals

2007-06-22 Thread Nicholas Miell
t; Ah got it, signalfd_detach() in include/linux/signalfd.h from > exit_signal plus some rcu bits in signalfd lock/unlock. You could just get rid of the process/sighand/whatever reference entirely and just make reads on a signalfd always dequeue signals for the current thread. You'd lose the abi

Re: Fix signalfd interaction with thread-private signals

2007-06-22 Thread Nicholas Miell
for the current thread. You'd lose the ability to pass signalfds around to other processes, but I'm not convinced that is even useful. (But I'm sure somebody smarter than me has a valid use case and would love to share :-) -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Fix signalfd interaction with thread-private signals

2007-06-22 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 17:12 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: You could just get rid of the process/sighand/whatever reference entirely and just make reads on a signalfd always dequeue signals for the current thread. Duh?! ... You'd lose

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 16:49 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:01 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 2007-

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:01 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 20:33 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > In a stunning turn of events, I've actually been able to make another -rc > > > release desp

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
se > out there! > signalfd still has the broken behavior w.r.t. signal delivery to threads. Is this going to get fixed before 2.6.22 proper is released, or should it just be disabled entirely so no userspace apps grow to depend on current wrong behavior? -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
there! signalfd still has the broken behavior w.r.t. signal delivery to threads. Is this going to get fixed before 2.6.22 proper is released, or should it just be disabled entirely so no userspace apps grow to depend on current wrong behavior? -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:01 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 20:33 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: In a stunning turn of events, I've actually been able to make another -rc release despite all the discussion (*cough*flaming

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 16:49 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:01 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 20:33 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: In a stunning turn

Re: JIT emulator needs

2007-06-08 Thread Nicholas Miell
mprotect and munmap. I think he's asking for a way to copy an existing mapping, which does sound genuinely useful. (i.e. mremap(ptr, size, size, MREMAP_COPY), with no need to mess with files to get multiple mappings of the same region) -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To un

Re: JIT emulator needs

2007-06-08 Thread Nicholas Miell
he's asking for a way to copy an existing mapping, which does sound genuinely useful. (i.e. mremap(ptr, size, size, MREMAP_COPY), with no need to mess with files to get multiple mappings of the same region) -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: signalfd API issues (was Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes)

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
l waiting for signal delivery and the error is caused by the signal delivery mechanism itself (i.e. a bad pointer passed to read/select/poll/epoll_wait/etc.) and thus the signal can't be delivered -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "

signalfd API issues (was Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes)

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 17:37 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 17:11 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, that's certainly wr

Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 17:11 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > Yes, that's certainly wrong, but that's an implementation issue. I was > > more concerned about the design of the API. > > > > Naively, I would expect a reads

Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 17:27 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:09 -0700, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > signalfd() doesn't deliver thread-targeted signals to the wrong > > threads, > > does it? > > > > Hmm. > > > > It loo

Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
actually calls read()). Which is weird, to say the least. Definitely needs to be noted in the man page, which doesn't seem to exist yet. Is there a reason why signalfd() doesn't behave like regular signals in this regard? -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from

Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
. Is there a reason why signalfd() doesn't behave like regular signals in this regard? -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 17:27 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:09 -0700, Nicholas Miell wrote: signalfd() doesn't deliver thread-targeted signals to the wrong threads, does it? Hmm. It looks like reading from a signalfd will give you either process

Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 17:11 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: Yes, that's certainly wrong, but that's an implementation issue. I was more concerned about the design of the API. Naively, I would expect a reads on a signalfd to return either process

signalfd API issues (was Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes)

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 17:37 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 17:11 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: Yes, that's certainly wrong, but that's an implementation issue. I was more

Re: signalfd API issues (was Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes)

2007-06-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
the signal can't be delivered -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [PATCH] Introduce O_CLOEXEC (take >2)

2007-05-31 Thread Nicholas Miell
t; #define O_NOATIME0100 > #endif > +#ifndef O_CLOEXEC > +#define O_CLOEXEC0200/* set close_on_exec */ > +#endif > #ifndef O_NDELAY > #define O_NDELAY O_NONBLOCK > #endif O_CLOSEONEXEC, perhaps? We don't want to create another "creat&qu

Re: [PATCH] Introduce O_CLOEXEC (take 2)

2007-05-31 Thread Nicholas Miell
0100 #endif +#ifndef O_CLOEXEC +#define O_CLOEXEC0200/* set close_on_exec */ +#endif #ifndef O_NDELAY #define O_NDELAY O_NONBLOCK #endif O_CLOSEONEXEC, perhaps? We don't want to create another creat here... :) -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe

Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3

2007-04-27 Thread Nicholas Miell
- Ted The AMD64 psABI requires binaries to work with any page size up to 64k. Whether that's true in practice is another matter entirely, of course. -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in

Re: [00/17] Large Blocksize Support V3

2007-04-27 Thread Nicholas Miell
that's true in practice is another matter entirely, of course. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read

Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
(sorry for the duplicate Ingo, this time I managed to Repy to All) On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 08:45 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The X people have plans for how to go about fixing this, [...] > > then we'll first have

Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
te. > The changes will probably be entirely server-side anyway, so stray ancient libraries won't be a problem. -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More

Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
server-side anyway, so stray ancient libraries won't be a problem. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read

Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
(sorry for the duplicate Ingo, this time I managed to Repy to All) On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 08:45 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: * Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The X people have plans for how to go about fixing this, [...] then we'll first have wait for those X changes to at least

Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-16 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 06:56 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 21:24 -0700, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > Sorry, I haven't really been following this thread and now I'm confused. > > > > You're saying that it's somehow the scheduler's fault that X isn't

Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-16 Thread Nicholas Miell
ion. > > If this is your final answer to the problem space, I am done testing, > and as far as _I_ am concerned, your scheduler is an utter failure. > Sorry, I haven't really been following this thread and now I'm confused. You're saying that it's somehow the scheduler's fault that X isn'

Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-16 Thread Nicholas Miell
running with a high enough priority? -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org

Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-16 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 06:56 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 21:24 -0700, Nicholas Miell wrote: Sorry, I haven't really been following this thread and now I'm confused. You're saying that it's somehow the scheduler's fault that X isn't running with a high enough

Re: Style Question

2007-03-11 Thread Nicholas Miell
platforms. (This just works in C because C makes NULL ((void*)0) is thus is the right size. In C++, the 0 ends up being an int instead of a pointer when passed to a varargs function, and things tend to blow up when they read the garbage high bits. Of course, nobody else does this, so you still have t

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v3 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-11 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 16:50 -0700, Nicholas Miell wrote: > You should probably make it behave like the other things that use > itimerspec, just to avoid confusion -- i.e. timers are relative by > default, there's a flag that makes them absolute, they expire when > it_value specifies

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v3 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-11 Thread Nicholas Miell
spec, just to avoid confusion -- i.e. timers are relative by default, there's a flag that makes them absolute, they expire when it_value specifies, and repeat every it_interval nanoseconds if it_interval is non-zero. i.e. int timerfd(int ufd, int clockid, int flags, const struct timespec *utmr);

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v3 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-11 Thread Nicholas Miell
of relative (and no TFD_TIMER_REL or TFD_TIMER_SEQ at all). -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v3 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-11 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 16:50 -0700, Nicholas Miell wrote: You should probably make it behave like the other things that use itimerspec, just to avoid confusion -- i.e. timers are relative by default, there's a flag that makes them absolute, they expire when it_value specifies, and repeat every

Re: Style Question

2007-03-11 Thread Nicholas Miell
the garbage high bits. Of course, nobody else does this, so you still have to use (void*)NULL to be portable.) -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 21:31 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > Ah, I see. You're just interested in fds as a generic handle concept, > > and not a more Plan 9 type thing. > > Indeed. It's a "handle". &

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 17:57 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > If that's the goal, somebody should start thinking about reducing the > > contents of struct file to the bare minimum (i.e. not much more than a > > file_operatio

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 16:35 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > > > I'd actually much rather do POSIX timers the other way around: associate > > > a > > > generic notification mechanism with the

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 14:42 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > Care to elaborate on why they're a horrible crock? > > It's a *classic* case of an interface that tries to do everything under > the sun. > > Here'

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 13:44 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > That's what the sigevent structure is for -- to describe how events > > should be signaled to userspace, whether by signal delivery, thread > > creation,

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 12:41 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > Try reading the timer_create man page. > > > > In short, you're limited to a single clock, so you can't set timers > > based on wall-clock time (subject to N

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 23:36 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 22:53 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > > > > > So extend the existing

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 23:36 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 22:53 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: So extend the existing POSIX timer API to deliver expiry events via a fd

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 12:41 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: Try reading the timer_create man page. In short, you're limited to a single clock, so you can't set timers based on wall-clock time (subject to NTP correction), monotomic time

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 13:44 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: That's what the sigevent structure is for -- to describe how events should be signaled to userspace, whether by signal delivery, thread creation, or queuing to event completion ports

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 14:42 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: Care to elaborate on why they're a horrible crock? It's a *classic* case of an interface that tries to do everything under the sun. Here's a clue: look at any system call that takes

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 16:35 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: I'd actually much rather do POSIX timers the other way around: associate a generic notification mechanism with the file descriptor, and then implement posix_timer_create

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 17:57 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: If that's the goal, somebody should start thinking about reducing the contents of struct file to the bare minimum (i.e. not much more than a file_operations pointer). That's already

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-10 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 21:31 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: Ah, I see. You're just interested in fds as a generic handle concept, and not a more Plan 9 type thing. Indeed. It's a handle. UNIX has pid's for process handles, and file

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-09 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 22:53 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 22:38 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > > > > Why d

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-09 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 22:38 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > Why did you ignore the existing POSIX timer API? > > The existing POSIX API is a standard and a very good one. Too bad it does > not deliver to files. The timerf

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-09 Thread Nicholas Miell
call > to read(2). The read(2) call supportes the O_NONBLOCK flag too, and EAGAIN > will be returned if no ticks happened. > A quick test program, shows timerfd working correctly on my amd64 box: > > http://www.xmailserver.org/timerfd-test.c > Why did you ignore the ex

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-09 Thread Nicholas Miell
you ignore the existing POSIX timer API? -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-09 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 22:38 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: Why did you ignore the existing POSIX timer API? The existing POSIX API is a standard and a very good one. Too bad it does not deliver to files. The timerfd code is, as you can probably

Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...

2007-03-09 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 22:53 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 22:38 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: Why did you ignore the existing POSIX timer API? The existing POSIX API

Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler

2007-03-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
> with lots of CPUs (eg: solaris). So there is a real challenge here to try to > provide something at least as good and universal because we know that it can > exist. And this is what you finally did : work on a scheduler which ought to > be > good with any workload. Solaris ha

Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler

2007-03-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
/FIFO/RR/etc. -- is it's own separate component). -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http

Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, "Threadlets", generic AIO support, v3

2007-03-02 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 16:52 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > The point Ingo was making is that the x86 ABI already requires the FPU > > context to be saved before *all* function calls. > > I've not seen that among Ingo's poin

Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, "Threadlets", generic AIO support, v3

2007-03-02 Thread Nicholas Miell
across function calls, and I'm sure this is also true of others. Then there's the other nasty details of new thread creation -- thankfully, the contents of the TLS isn't inherited from the parent thread, but it still needs to be initialized; not to mention all the other details involved in pthread crea

Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, Threadlets, generic AIO support, v3

2007-03-02 Thread Nicholas Miell
involved in pthread creation and destruction. I don't see any way around the pthread issues other than making a libc upcall on return from the first system call that blocked. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body

Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, Threadlets, generic AIO support, v3

2007-03-02 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 16:52 -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: The point Ingo was making is that the x86 ABI already requires the FPU context to be saved before *all* function calls. I've not seen that among Ingo's points, but yeah some status

Re: sigaction's ucontext_t with incorrect stack reference when SA_SIGINFO is being used ?

2007-01-22 Thread Nicholas Miell
gh. (And I suspect this bug has probably been copied to other architectures as well.) -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: sigaction's ucontext_t with incorrect stack reference when SA_SIGINFO is being used ?

2007-01-22 Thread Nicholas Miell
.) -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [PATCH] Introduce simple TRUE and FALSE boolean macros.

2007-01-21 Thread Nicholas Miell
macros, you should probably use the official all-lowercase C99 version. -- Nicholas Miell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/maj

Re: [PATCH] Introduce simple TRUE and FALSE boolean macros.

2007-01-21 Thread Nicholas Miell
probably use the official all-lowercase C99 version. -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ

Re: [KORG] Re: kernel.org lies about latest -mm kernel

2007-01-06 Thread Nicholas Miell
inux > kernels that the dcache/icache is precious, and that it's way too eager > to dump dcache and icache in favour of data blocks. If I could do that, > this problem would be much, much smaller. > > -hpa Isn't setting the vm.vfs_cache_pressure sysctl below 100 supposed to

Re: [KORG] Re: kernel.org lies about latest -mm kernel

2007-01-06 Thread Nicholas Miell
that, this problem would be much, much smaller. -hpa Isn't setting the vm.vfs_cache_pressure sysctl below 100 supposed to do this? -- Nicholas Miell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED

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