Re: Bug#727708: Call for Votes on init system coupling

2014-03-02 Thread NoTo CTTE
Why should we believe you or the bullshit excuses given in the article? The fact is, last year none of this crap was needed. Now it suddenly is. Furthermore gnome stole libgtk from the gimp project recently and then they made an incompatable "libgtk" 3.0. And now they're requiring all these

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely - SysV is fine

2014-03-02 Thread NoTo CTTE
esys...@muchomail.com Subject: Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely - SysV is fine Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:15:41 -0600 On Sunday, March 02, 2014 02:12:48 PM NoTo CTTE wrote: > System V is NOT hard to "maintain" > The scripts were written YEA

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread NoTo CTTE
Systemd is over 200,000 lines of ring0 running bullshit. Regular inits are under 10k lines of code inclusive. Some are 100 lines of code. Hmm which is easier to find exploits in. SystemD. Notice how the fknuts always try to change the tables. "It's YOU who are the shill!" And always it is the

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread NoTo CTTE
He has a right to call a GR. You are trying your hardest to make sure systemd is the only choice for all linux systems, all major linux distros, and if we don't like it we can "go use MacOSX or BSD" or "roll your own distro". The fact is that SysV works NOW. The scripts work and are stable and

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread NoTo CTTE
He has a right to call a GR. You are trying your hardest to make sure systemd is the only choice for all linux systems, all major linux distros, and if we don't like it we can go use MacOSX or BSD or roll your own distro. The fact is that SysV works NOW. The scripts work and are stable and are

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread NoTo CTTE
Systemd is over 200,000 lines of ring0 running bullshit. Regular inits are under 10k lines of code inclusive. Some are 100 lines of code. Hmm which is easier to find exploits in. SystemD. Notice how the fknuts always try to change the tables. It's YOU who are the shill! And always it is the same

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely - SysV is fine

2014-03-02 Thread NoTo CTTE
...@muchomail.com Subject: Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely - SysV is fine Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:15:41 -0600 On Sunday, March 02, 2014 02:12:48 PM NoTo CTTE wrote: System V is NOT hard to maintain The scripts were written YEARS ago. They're fine. They do

Re: Bug#727708: Call for Votes on init system coupling

2014-03-02 Thread NoTo CTTE
Why should we believe you or the bullshit excuses given in the article? The fact is, last year none of this crap was needed. Now it suddenly is. Furthermore gnome stole libgtk from the gimp project recently and then they made an incompatable libgtk 3.0. And now they're requiring all these