ole and back, but the screen didn't come
back.
Thanks for any suggestion
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, but that might be a wide grasp.
Any suggestions how to debug this? The kernel logs after reboot are
empty.
Best
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13204 bytes 3062515 (2.9 MiB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
I am a bit at loss how to debug this, or better, whether it is possible
to get back normal connectivity?
Thanks a lot for any pointer
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't
see the warnings anymore.
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Sep 27 09:08:35 burischnitzel kernel: ---[ end trace 544d5d5df075debd ]---
This repeats a few times (2-4) and then it settles down.
WIFI works without any problems, though.
Best
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ock/dm-?/dm/use_blk_mq
and they are all set to 0.
> BTW, you can debug and collect some dmesg log during system suspend/resume
> without serial console:
I will try that tonight, now I am at work.
> Please get the patches backported to v4.13 in the following tree:
Thanks
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ock/dm-?/dm/use_blk_mq
and they are all set to 0.
> BTW, you can debug and collect some dmesg log during system suspend/resume
> without serial console:
I will try that tonight, now I am at work.
> Please get the patches backported to v4.13 in the following tree:
Thanks
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P
SI-device-is-.patch
to current 4.13, but without success.
(I don't want to play with .14-pre kernels by now.)
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to current 4.13, but without success.
(I don't want to play with .14-pre kernels by now.)
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Hi,
(please Cc)
I recently upgraded my Lenovo X260 from 4.12 to 4.13 and with the very
same software (Debian/sid) 4.13 does not properly wake up from
suspend to ram.
It wakes up, shows X very quickly, but it seems that the hard disk is
sleeping and not reacting. I can move the mouse, but the
Hi,
(please Cc)
I recently upgraded my Lenovo X260 from 4.12 to 4.13 and with the very
same software (Debian/sid) 4.13 does not properly wake up from
suspend to ram.
It wakes up, shows X very quickly, but it seems that the hard disk is
sleeping and not reacting. I can move the mouse, but the
t that.
Thanks
Norbert
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t that.
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.
I am running Debian/sid, on today's git kernel (4.9.0-rc5+).
I attach the output of alsa-info.
Please let me know whether I can try some more tweaks.
Thanks a lot
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.
I am running Debian/sid, on today's git kernel (4.9.0-rc5+).
I attach the output of alsa-info.
Please let me know whether I can try some more tweaks.
Thanks a lot
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> It won't apply directly, but you could try testing that commit and its
> parent to see if my hunch was correct.
Unfortunately parent commit was also ok. I am trying to bisect, but
somehow git tells me something about "...merge commit..." - will see
how it goes.
Norbert
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> It won't apply directly, but you could try testing that commit and its
> parent to see if my hunch was correct.
Unfortunately parent commit was also ok. I am trying to bisect, but
somehow git tells me something about "...merge commit..." - will see
how it goes.
Norbert
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o test this patch only on top of master? (If it applies!!!)
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trace f6f5069f352abf69 ]---
This is home-compiled kernel 4.6.0-rc2 on Debian/sid
All the best
(please Cc)
Norbert
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trace f6f5069f352abf69 ]---
This is home-compiled kernel 4.6.0-rc2 on Debian/sid
All the best
(please Cc)
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and on without a problem by simply
swithcing the antialiasing.
Maybe this rings a bell at someone.
Thanks
Norbert
(please Cc)
> On 17 December 2015 at 18:34, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > * font corruption
> > sometime sets of glyphs, or practically all glyphs disappear
> &g
and on without a problem by simply
swithcing the antialiasing.
Maybe this rings a bell at someone.
Thanks
Norbert
(please Cc)
> On 17 December 2015 at 18:34, Norbert Preining <prein...@logic.at> wrote:
> > * font corruption
> > sometime sets of glyphs, or practically
, but
not always.
Let me know if there is anything else one might want to know
Thanks
Norbert
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, but
not always.
Let me know if there is anything else one might want to know
Thanks
Norbert
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Hi Tejun,
> Patches just got merged into mainline. Please let me know if the
> current git master doesn't fix the issue.
Seems to have worked - I don't see the kernel hangs anymore. What remains
are problems with DRI/DRM, but I will report separately.
Thanks a lot
N
Hi Tejun,
> Patches just got merged into mainline. Please let me know if the
> current git master doesn't fix the issue.
Seems to have worked - I don't see the kernel hangs anymore. What remains
are problems with DRI/DRM, but I will report separately.
Thanks a lot
N
; > Modules linked in:
> > ...
> > CPU: 1 PID: 14 Comm: ksoftirqd/1 Tainted: G O 4.4.0-rc3+
> > Hardware name: Sony Corporation SVP1322A1J/VAIO, BIOS R2092V7 04/24/2015
> > ...
Norbert
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Dear all
(please Cc)
running 4.4-rc4 (written as rc3+ but only the tag commit is missing),
but I think also earlier in the rc releases, I occasionally see hangs
on shutdown. Nothing works anymore, but this time at least there
was some output on the console.
Manually copied from screen:
Dear all
(please Cc)
running 4.4-rc4 (written as rc3+ but only the tag commit is missing),
but I think also earlier in the rc releases, I occasionally see hangs
on shutdown. Nothing works anymore, but this time at least there
was some output on the console.
Manually copied from screen:
; > Modules linked in:
> > ...
> > CPU: 1 PID: 14 Comm: ksoftirqd/1 Tainted: G O 4.4.0-rc3+
> > Hardware name: Sony Corporation SVP1322A1J/VAIO, BIOS R2092V7 04/24/2015
> > ...
Norbert
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ded times,
and I wanted to give it a bit of stress testing.
No problems till now, no hangs, all working as expected with
your latest patch.
Thanks a lot
Norbert
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wanted to give it a bit of stress testing.
No problems till now, no hangs, all working as expected with
your latest patch.
Thanks a lot
Norbert
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Anyway, with the current kernel (reverted
commit as before) I get the attached zoneinfo.
Thanks, and waiting for your patches ;-)
Norbert
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h other experiments you want to see.
Thanks
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can compile a default kernel without the above commit
reverted, and turn on STACKTRACE (I have turned it one for *all* future
kernels I compile ;-)
I also didn't try the patch you send me, just the revert from above.
Please let me know which other experiments you want to see.
Thanks
Norbert
(reverted
commit as before) I get the attached zoneinfo.
Thanks, and waiting for your patches ;-)
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"pid", is
this depending on some specific kerenl option?
/proc/zoneinfo I have and can send you the next time.
Thanks a lot and all the best
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kerenl option?
/proc/zoneinfo I have and can send you the next time.
Thanks a lot and all the best
Norbert
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Hi David,
one more thing, attached dmesg output with some page faults,
maybe this is connected?
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> thanks for your answer.
>
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2014, David Rientjes wrote:
> > If you have the ability to kill you
0 0 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0
Hope that helps
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, or is there something luring in the
kernel.
All the best
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, or is there something luring in the
kernel.
All the best
Norbert
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0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0
Hope that helps
Norbert
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Hi David,
one more thing, attached dmesg output with some page faults,
maybe this is connected?
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, Norbert Preining wrote:
Hi David,
thanks for your answer.
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014, David Rientjes wrote:
If you have the ability to kill your X session, then you presumably
nts?
After loads of testing I found out what is the problem: initramfs.
I normally compile my own kernel with all the drivers built-in,
and no initramfs ... and in this case, without initrd, it seems that
/ is somehow not remounted to a proper scsi device, but remains
at
is the problem: initramfs.
I normally compile my own kernel with all the drivers built-in,
and no initramfs ... and in this case, without initrd, it seems that
/ is somehow not remounted to a proper scsi device, but remains
at /dev/root.
Hope that helps
Norbert
oldconfig when compiling a new kernel, all of
the above are self-compiled.
Thanks
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oldconfig when compiling a new kernel, all of
the above are self-compiled.
Thanks
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Hi Liu,
> [PATCH] Btrfs: fix abnormal long waiting in fsync
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/4564961/
Looks fine! And also is explains why aptitude was hanging as it does
several fsync operations.
I will have it running from now and report in case of problems.
Thanks
N
Hi Liu,
[PATCH] Btrfs: fix abnormal long waiting in fsync
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/4564961/
Looks fine! And also is explains why aptitude was hanging as it does
several fsync operations.
I will have it running from now and report in case of problems.
Thanks
Norbert
bian/sid
self compiled kernel, config on request.
Please let me know if there is anything else I can provide.
Thanks a lot
Norbert
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, issueing a Sysrq-s for emergency syncing did the laptop
out of the hang.
Hardware: Sonly VAIO Pro 13
Distribution: Debian/sid
self compiled kernel, config on request.
Please let me know if there is anything else I can provide.
Thanks a lot
Norbert
plicant
interface state: authenticating -> disconnected
May 15 20:36:44 tofuschnitzel NetworkManager[16128]: (wlan0): supplicant
interface state: disconnected -> scanning
Why does it go from authenticated -> directly to deauthenticating. Uffa.
Anyway, I will try
May 15 20:36:44 tofuschnitzel NetworkManager[16128]: info (wlan0): supplicant
interface state: disconnected - scanning
Why does it go from authenticated - directly to deauthenticating. Uffa.
Anyway, I will try some more things, esp wireless-testing.
Norbert
ompleted with
00:3a:9d:b4:54:5a [PTK=CCMP GTK=CCMP]
have a strong effect on the actual connection.
4) conclusion
=
in the current state, that is release 3.9.0, but the same happened
in earlier kernels, this driver and/or NM is completely useless
at times.
works, at times it does nothing.
In this case, now the 5th day in series ...
Norbert
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time=1433 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_req=539 ttl=255 time=4499 ms
...
In addition, the responses for these blocks come *together*,
not after 4sec the first, then after 3 sec the next. No.
It is wait 10 sec, ba, all 4, wait 10secs, bam all 4.
Does that ring *any* bel
bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_req=539 ttl=255 time=4499 ms
...
In addition, the responses for these blocks come *together*,
not after 4sec the first, then after 3 sec the next. No.
It is wait 10 sec, ba, all 4, wait 10secs, bam all 4.
Does that ring *any* bell*
Norbert
e an
> 802.11n connection using WPA1 encryption. (More of those pesky details!)
WPA PSK, yes. I don't know the difference between WPA2 and WPA, though.
Best wishes, and merry christmas
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ms whatever that
might be
I don't know what other information I can provide.
I don't know if there is anyone who feels responsible.
I am willing to test and provide more data.
Norbert
Norb
be
I don't know what other information I can provide.
I don't know if there is anyone who feels responsible.
I am willing to test and provide more data.
Norbert
Norbert Preiningpreining
of those pesky details!)
WPA PSK, yes. I don't know the difference between WPA2 and WPA, though.
Best wishes, and merry christmas
Norbert
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time=1.76 ms
^C
--- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics ---
42 packets transmitted, 24 received, +18 errors, 42% packet loss, time 41261ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.229/24079.534/38455.055/11983.493 ms, pipe 39
$
Yeah.
we are talking about my router, and a stability that is below
the quality o
, 24 received, +18 errors, 42% packet loss, time 41261ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.229/24079.534/38455.055/11983.493 ms, pipe 39
$
Yeah.
we are talking about my router, and a stability that is below
the quality of morse code ...
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Hi Larry, hi
n about 1 year ;-)
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year ;-)
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Am I doing something wrong? I thought I am bisecting between 3.6 and 3.7.-rc2?
How can I go back to 3.6.0-rc2?
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doing something wrong? I thought I am bisecting between 3.6 and 3.7.-rc2?
How can I go back to 3.6.0-rc2?
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git pull
or so on same sized repositories in parallel brings anyway the
laptop to its knees (actually, badly to its knees).
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2.
Ok, thanks. I will try.
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ning now with SNA. Let us see what happens.
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lla.kernel.org)
> so that we don't lose track of it.
I have seen this here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55984
does it make sense to start a new bug for that?
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://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55984
does it make sense to start a new bug for that?
Best wishes
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or so on same sized repositories in parallel brings anyway the
laptop to its knees (actually, badly to its knees).
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Hi Chris,
> so can you
> please file a bug on bugzilla.freedesktop.org (or bugzilla.kernel.org)
> so that we don't lose track of it.
Will do when I'm back from the mountains.
> If your have the option, can you switch the ddx between using SNA and
> UXA.
??? Is that a BIOS option? Or kernel?
I
Hi Chris,
so can you
please file a bug on bugzilla.freedesktop.org (or bugzilla.kernel.org)
so that we don't lose track of it.
Will do when I'm back from the mountains.
If your have the option, can you switch the ddx between using SNA and
UXA.
??? Is that a BIOS option? Or kernel?
I can
o fast, declaring wedged!
[drm:i915_reset] *ERROR* Failed to reset chip.
new i915_error_state.gz at the same place.
So it seems that the patches in the ilk-wa-pile branch do not help.
All the best
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chip.
new i915_error_state.gz at the same place.
So it seems that the patches in the ilk-wa-pile branch do not help.
All the best
Norbert
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a kernel with this patch based on current git now.
Should I still use the above kernel cmd argument (i915...rc6=0)
or try without it?
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Kernel driver in use: i915
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 02)
Does that make any differences?
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after a reboot without any suspends or other tricks inbetween,
uptime 3.5h.
Best wishes and thanks for any suggestions
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after a reboot without any suspends or other tricks inbetween,
uptime 3.5h.
Best wishes and thanks for any suggestions
Norbert
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in use: i915
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 02)
Does that make any differences?
Best wishes
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with this patch based on current git now.
Should I still use the above kernel cmd argument (i915...rc6=0)
or try without it?
Best wishes
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ess Extension v21 or later,
Currently compiled with Wireless Extension v22.
# uname -a
Linux tofuschnitzel 3.6.0-rc5-wl+ #19 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 14 13:14:15 JST 2012
x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Extension v21 or later,
Currently compiled with Wireless Extension v22.
# uname -a
Linux tofuschnitzel 3.6.0-rc5-wl+ #19 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 14 13:14:15 JST 2012
x86_64 GNU/Linux
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f them affect rtl8192se.
I am running on top of default kernel git, will try wireless-testing, too.
Thanks a lot and all the best, and let me know what I can provide more!
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of default kernel git, will try wireless-testing, too.
Thanks a lot and all the best, and let me know what I can provide more!
Norbert
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: [160] Device Serial Number 88-55-22-fe-ff-4c-e0-00
Kernel driver in use: rtl8192se
$
That is with latest git kernel from yesterday.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> (please cc)
>
> I am having serious t
: [160] Device Serial Number 88-55-22-fe-ff-4c-e0-00
Kernel driver in use: rtl8192se
$
That is with latest git kernel from yesterday.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
Dear all,
(please cc)
I am having serious troubles with my rtl8192se
0,
skb_queue_len = 0x0
etc etc.
That is the end, no connection at all, and no way (AFAIS) to get
it back.
Are there any suggestions, patches, ideas to fix and track that down?
THanks a lot
Norbert
(please cc)
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at all, and no way (AFAIS) to get
it back.
Are there any suggestions, patches, ideas to fix and track that down?
THanks a lot
Norbert
(please cc)
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or the noise.
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