Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-09 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 11:08 -0800, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > > > > I think you missed one of my posts from last week. The code has > > nothing to do with linux. > > Like the 'f00f' bug in the Pentium days, there may well be a way that a > kernel can *pre

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-09 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 11:08 -0800, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > > > > I think you missed one of my posts from last week. The code has > > nothing to do with linux. > > Like the 'f00f' bug in the Pentium days, there may well be a way that a > kernel can *pre

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-08 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Mon 2018-01-08 07:58:33, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Is the sequence available from ring 3, or does it need ring 0? > > > > > > > > > > Can we get the code? Extraordinary claims and all that... > >

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-08 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Mon 2018-01-08 07:58:33, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Is the sequence available from ring 3, or does it need ring 0? > > > > > > > > > > Can we get the code? Extraordinary claims and all that... > >

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-08 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Monday 08 of January 2018, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Is the sequence available from ring 3, or does it need ring 0? > > > > > > > > > > Can we get the code? Extraordinary claims and all that... > >

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-08 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Monday 08 of January 2018, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Is the sequence available from ring 3, or does it need ring 0? > > > > > > > > > > Can we get the code? Extraordinary claims and all that... > >

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-08 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> Hi! > > > > Is the sequence available from ring 3, or does it need ring 0? > > > > > > Can we get the code? Extraordinary claims and all that... > > > > > > > I did not test privilege level. Are you suggesting that I put the code out > > there for everyone to > > see or what? > > Yes, that's

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-08 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> Hi! > > > > Is the sequence available from ring 3, or does it need ring 0? > > > > > > Can we get the code? Extraordinary claims and all that... > > > > > > > I did not test privilege level. Are you suggesting that I put the code out > > there for everyone to > > see or what? > > Yes, that's

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-05 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> Hi! > > On Thu 2018-01-04 17:21:36, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > On Thu 2018-01-04 14:13:56, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > > > > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the > > > > > > motherboard and reset BIOS

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-05 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> Hi! > > On Thu 2018-01-04 17:21:36, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > On Thu 2018-01-04 14:13:56, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > > > > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the > > > > > > motherboard and reset BIOS

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-05 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Tim Mouraveiko <tim...@ipcopper.com> wrote: > > Pavel, > > > > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the motherboard > > and reset BIOS > > and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the p

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-05 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > Pavel, > > > > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the motherboard > > and reset BIOS > > and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the processor was not > > drawing a

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-05 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On 2018-01-05 10:21, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > >> On Thu 2018-01-04 14:13:56, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > >> Actually... I don't think your code works. That's why I'm curious. But > >> if it works, its rather a big news... and I'm sure Intel and cloud > >&g

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-05 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On 2018-01-05 10:21, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > >> On Thu 2018-01-04 14:13:56, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > >> Actually... I don't think your code works. That's why I'm curious. But > >> if it works, its rather a big news... and I'm sure Intel and cloud > >&g

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-04 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Thu 2018-01-04 14:13:56, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the > > > > motherboard and reset BIOS > > > > and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the processor was not > > > > d

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-04 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Thu 2018-01-04 14:13:56, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > > > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the > > > > motherboard and reset BIOS > > > > and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the processor was not > > > > d

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-04 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the motherboard > > and reset BIOS > > and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the processor was not > > drawing any power. The > > software code behaved in a similar fashion on other processors, until I > > fixed it so that

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-04 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the motherboard > > and reset BIOS > > and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the processor was not > > drawing any power. The > > software code behaved in a similar fashion on other processors, until I > > fixed it so that

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-04 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Tim Mouraveiko <tim...@ipcopper.com> wrote: > > Pavel, > > > > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the motherboard > > and reset BIOS > > and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the p

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-04 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Tim Mouraveiko wrote: > > Pavel, > > > > As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the motherboard > > and reset BIOS > > and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the processor was not > > drawing a

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-04 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
Pavel, As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the motherboard and reset BIOS and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the processor was not drawing any power. The software code behaved in a similar fashion on other processors, until I fixed it so that it would not

Re: Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-04 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
Pavel, As I mentioned before, I repeatedly and fully power-cycled the motherboard and reset BIOS and etc. It made no difference. I can see that the processor was not drawing any power. The software code behaved in a similar fashion on other processors, until I fixed it so that it would not

Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-03 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
Hi, In all my years of extensive experience writing drivers and kernels, I never came across a situation where you could brick an x86 CPU. Not until recently, when I was working on debugging a piece of code and I bricked an Intel CPU. I am not talking about an experimental motherboard or

Bricked x86 CPU with software?

2018-01-03 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
Hi, In all my years of extensive experience writing drivers and kernels, I never came across a situation where you could brick an x86 CPU. Not until recently, when I was working on debugging a piece of code and I bricked an Intel CPU. I am not talking about an experimental motherboard or

Re: [PATCH] x86/cpu, x86/pti: Do not enable PTI on AMD processors

2018-01-03 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
On 12/26/2017 09:43 PM, Tom Lendacky wrote: >AMD processors are not subject to the types of attacks that the kernel page >table isolation feature protects against. There is no doubt this is a serious flaw. This thread reminded me - about a year ago we discovered a software code that bricked

Re: [PATCH] x86/cpu, x86/pti: Do not enable PTI on AMD processors

2018-01-03 Thread Tim Mouraveiko
On 12/26/2017 09:43 PM, Tom Lendacky wrote: >AMD processors are not subject to the types of attacks that the kernel page >table isolation feature protects against. There is no doubt this is a serious flaw. This thread reminded me - about a year ago we discovered a software code that bricked