Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-27 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
Thanks Roland, On Tuesday 26 June 2007 21:03, Roland Kuhn wrote: > On 26 Jun 2007, at 16:37, Zoltán HUBERT wrote: > > Whatever "stable" means. > > What you mean by "stable" pretty much excludes any > serious development, without which the Linux kernel woul

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-27 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
Thanks Roland, On Tuesday 26 June 2007 21:03, Roland Kuhn wrote: On 26 Jun 2007, at 16:37, Zoltán HUBERT wrote: Whatever stable means. What you mean by stable pretty much excludes any serious development, without which the Linux kernel would very soon be obsolete. If you want a stable

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-26 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
On Tuesday 26 June 2007 13:59, Helge Hafting wrote: > Zoltán HUBERT wrote: > > Well, I'm using SuSE Pro 9.3 (excellent choice by the > > way), coming with kernel 2.6.10-SuSE > You either stick with SuSE 9.3 forever, or you > *try* something newer to see if it works, I di

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-26 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
On Tuesday 26 June 2007 13:59, Helge Hafting wrote: Zoltán HUBERT wrote: Well, I'm using SuSE Pro 9.3 (excellent choice by the way), coming with kernel 2.6.10-SuSE You either stick with SuSE 9.3 forever, or you *try* something newer to see if it works, I did. It (2.6.15) didn't. Between

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-21 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
On Friday 22 June 2007 00:29, Jesper Juhl wrote: > > You might think it's easy for me to simply "use" Linux > > and complain while you're doing the hard stuff. As it > > happens, the current development/stable model makes our > > life as "users" more and more difficult. > > In what way? Well,

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-21 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
On Friday 22 June 2007 00:52, Stefan Richter wrote: > Zoltán HUBERT wrote: > > So I feel that a turning-point is coming where a really > > really really (x 15) stable and reliable kernel is > > NEEDED. > > Not satisfied with 2.6.16.y or one of the "enterprise&quo

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-21 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
On Friday 22 June 2007 00:08, you wrote: > > So I feel that a turning-point is coming where a really > > really really (x 15) stable and reliable kernel is > > NEEDED. > > Its incredibly hard to keep a stable kernel side API/ABI > by just backporting fixes. Fortunately you can pay > vendors to do

Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-21 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
Hello gentlemen (and ladies ?) As a power-user (NOT a hacker) I kindly ask you to please change the naming scheme and come back to the traditional model, and release a stable kernel while working on a develoment branch. I'm not on the [lkml] so should you answer please CC my e-mail: [EMAIL

Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-21 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
Hello gentlemen (and ladies ?) As a power-user (NOT a hacker) I kindly ask you to please change the naming scheme and come back to the traditional model, and release a stable kernel while working on a develoment branch. I'm not on the [lkml] so should you answer please CC my e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-21 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
On Friday 22 June 2007 00:08, you wrote: So I feel that a turning-point is coming where a really really really (x 15) stable and reliable kernel is NEEDED. Its incredibly hard to keep a stable kernel side API/ABI by just backporting fixes. Fortunately you can pay vendors to do this for

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-21 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
On Friday 22 June 2007 00:29, Jesper Juhl wrote: You might think it's easy for me to simply use Linux and complain while you're doing the hard stuff. As it happens, the current development/stable model makes our life as users more and more difficult. In what way? Well, I'm using SuSE

Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

2007-06-21 Thread Zoltán HUBERT
On Friday 22 June 2007 00:52, Stefan Richter wrote: Zoltán HUBERT wrote: So I feel that a turning-point is coming where a really really really (x 15) stable and reliable kernel is NEEDED. Not satisfied with 2.6.16.y or one of the enterprise distro kernels? so why not call this a day