Re: Startup IPI (was: Re: test13-pre3)

2000-12-19 Thread ferret
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip of Petr's system info] > Okay. Mine, as far as I can tell, only depends on the L2 cache being set > to '64MB' instead of '512MB' in the field 'L2 Cache Cacheable Size' under > 'Chipset Features Setup' on my BIOS. This is unfortunately the

Re: Startup IPI (was: Re: test13-pre3)

2000-12-19 Thread ferret
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Petr Vandrovec wrote: > On 18 Dec 00 at 21:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Pardon me for not fully groking the issues here and possibly coming to a > > wrong conclusion, but this has to do with SMP systems crashing at APIC > > init time, just before penguin display

Re: Startup IPI (was: Re: test13-pre3)

2000-12-19 Thread ferret
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Petr Vandrovec wrote: On 18 Dec 00 at 21:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon me for not fully groking the issues here and possibly coming to a wrong conclusion, but this has to do with SMP systems crashing at APIC init time, just before penguin display (with

Re: Startup IPI (was: Re: test13-pre3)

2000-12-19 Thread ferret
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip of Petr's system info] Okay. Mine, as far as I can tell, only depends on the L2 cache being set to '64MB' instead of '512MB' in the field 'L2 Cache Cacheable Size' under 'Chipset Features Setup' on my BIOS. This is unfortunately the latest

Re: Startup IPI (was: Re: test13-pre3)

2000-12-18 Thread ferret
a 430HX chipset with two Pentium MMX 200s installed, *ancient* BIOS. -- Ferret - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: CPU attachent and detachment in a running Linux system

2000-12-18 Thread ferret
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > >> I still wonder what you and other people think about the idea of an > >> interface where the parts of the kernel with per-cpu dependencies should > >> register two functions... > >Why not compile kernel with structeres big enough for

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-18 Thread ferret
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > One last question: WHY is the kernel's top-level Makefile handling > > this symlink? > > Where do you think it should be handled? 'make modules_install' seems > like the most logical place, to me. I think making the

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-18 Thread ferret
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Peter Samuelson wrote: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] One last question: WHY is the kernel's top-level Makefile handling this symlink? Where do you think it should be handled? 'make modules_install' seems like the most logical place, to me. I think making the symlink

Re: CPU attachent and detachment in a running Linux system

2000-12-18 Thread ferret
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I still wonder what you and other people think about the idea of an interface where the parts of the kernel with per-cpu dependencies should register two functions... Why not compile kernel with structeres big enough for 32 processors,

Re: Startup IPI (was: Re: test13-pre3)

2000-12-18 Thread ferret
a 430HX chipset with two Pentium MMX 200s installed, *ancient* BIOS. -- Ferret - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-17 Thread ferret
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > I have not moved or deleted a tree. I do not HAVE a kernel tree in > > the first place. Therefore, nothing for the symlink to point to when > > I install the kernel. > > If this is not the machine you

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-17 Thread ferret
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Peter Samuelson wrote: [[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] I have not moved or deleted a tree. I do not HAVE a kernel tree in the first place. Therefore, nothing for the symlink to point to when I install the kernel. If this is not the machine you compile

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-16 Thread ferret
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Do you have an alternative reccomendation? I've shown where the > > symlink method WILL fail. You disagree that having the configured > > headers copied is a workable idea. What else is there? > > 4.5 more megabytes, per

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-16 Thread ferret
On 16 Dec 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 15 Dec 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > > > >> I think /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ should contain a script that > >> reproduces the CFLAGS used to compile the kernel. > > >

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-16 Thread ferret
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Keith Owens wrote: > On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:37:49 -0800 (PST), > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Do you have an alternative reccomendation? I've shown where the symlink > >method WILL fail. You disagree that having the configured headers copied > >is a workable idea. What

Re: What about 'kernel package'? was: Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-16 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, richard offer wrote: > > * $ from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at "15-Dec: 8:22pm" | sed "1,$s/^/* /" > * > * > * Once again, I'd like to suggest Debian's kernel package system as a good > * working example of this sort of administrative-level kernel management. I > * brought this

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-16 Thread ferret
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Keith Owens wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:37:49 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have an alternative reccomendation? I've shown where the symlink method WILL fail. You disagree that having the configured headers copied is a workable idea. What else is

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-16 Thread ferret
On 16 Dec 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Dec 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: I think /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ should contain a script that reproduces the CFLAGS used to compile the kernel. However it happens,

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-16 Thread ferret
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Peter Samuelson wrote: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Do you have an alternative reccomendation? I've shown where the symlink method WILL fail. You disagree that having the configured headers copied is a workable idea. What else is there? 4.5 more megabytes, per kernel,

Re: What about 'kernel package'? was: Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-16 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, richard offer wrote: * $ from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at "15-Dec: 8:22pm" | sed "1,$s/^/* /" * * * Once again, I'd like to suggest Debian's kernel package system as a good * working example of this sort of administrative-level kernel management. I * brought this up on

What about 'kernel package'? was: Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, richard offer wrote: > In article <91e0vj$b6alr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >LA Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>It was at that > >>point, the externally compiled module "barfed", because like many modules, > >>it expected, like

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
terface. But on the second reading (after opening a bottle of Jones) I can see how the Advantage: would apply to both spheres. I'm just asking that people please try to be a little more precise with the rather imprecise list language. --Ferret - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
much different than mentioned in the directly preceding paragraph. Who else can offer an alternative solution, to the specific problem of making configured KERNEL headers available for building third-party modules? --Ferret - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Ingo Oeser wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:31:57AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Maybe you did not notice, but for months we have > > > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include, which points to kernel headers, > > > and which should be used for compiling

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Petr Vandrovec wrote: > On 15 Dec 00 at 10:23, Dana Lacoste wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 12:14:04AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > > > > > It's the version that's in cvs, I just did an cvs update. It's > > > been in it for ages. If it's wrong, someone

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Alexander Viro wrote: > > In the situation above they should have -I/include > > in CFLAGS. Always had to. No links, no pain in ass, no interference with > > userland compiles. > > As long as there's a standard location for "", > this is fine.

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Werner Almesberger wrote: Alexander Viro wrote: In the situation above they should have -Iwherever_the_tree_lives/include in CFLAGS. Always had to. No links, no pain in ass, no interference with userland compiles. As long as there's a standard location for

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Petr Vandrovec wrote: On 15 Dec 00 at 10:23, Dana Lacoste wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 12:14:04AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: It's the version that's in cvs, I just did an cvs update. It's been in it for ages. If it's wrong, someone *please*

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
spheres. I'm just asking that people please try to be a little more precise with the rather imprecise list language. --Ferret - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

What about 'kernel package'? was: Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, richard offer wrote: In article 91e0vj$b6alr$[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], LA Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was at that point, the externally compiled module "barfed", because like many modules, it expected, like many externally

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-14 Thread ferret
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Riley wrote: > > > Alexander Viro wrote: > > > > > > Actually, I suspect that quite a few of us had done that since long - > > > IIRC I've got burned on 1.2/1.3 and decided that I had enough. Bugger if I >

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-14 Thread ferret
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Riley wrote: Alexander Viro wrote: Actually, I suspect that quite a few of us had done that since long - IIRC I've got burned on 1.2/1.3 and decided that I had enough. Bugger if I remember what

Re: 2.4.0-test12 not liking high disk i/o

2000-12-12 Thread ferret
Can you tell us what controller chipset you have (output of lspci should be fine) and if your hard drive has DMA or uDMA enabled? There have been a few other reports of oopsen and fs corruption during periods of high interrupt activity. Mine seems to occur whenever I saturate my local network

Re: 2.4.0-test12 not liking high disk i/o

2000-12-12 Thread ferret
Can you tell us what controller chipset you have (output of lspci should be fine) and if your hard drive has DMA or uDMA enabled? There have been a few other reports of oopsen and fs corruption during periods of high interrupt activity. Mine seems to occur whenever I saturate my local network

PROBLEM: ATAPI DMA hangs/fs corruption, on 2.4.0-test1x

2000-12-06 Thread ferret
1) ATAPI DMA hangs and fs corruption, Acer Aspire with 2.4.0-test1x 2) Using the 2.0.4-test1x Ali M15x3 driver in DMA transfer mode on my Acer Aspire (Running Debian/GNU Linux) with heavy network load I get DMA timeouts and/or (so far) minor filesystem corruption. Minor just means that nothing

PROBLEM: ATAPI DMA hangs/fs corruption, on 2.4.0-test1x

2000-12-06 Thread ferret
1) ATAPI DMA hangs and fs corruption, Acer Aspire with 2.4.0-test1x 2) Using the 2.0.4-test1x Ali M15x3 driver in DMA transfer mode on my Acer Aspire (Running Debian/GNU Linux) with heavy network load I get DMA timeouts and/or (so far) minor filesystem corruption. Minor just means that nothing

Re: [linux-fbdev] [PATCH] mdacon SMP fix

2000-10-16 Thread ferret
I will test this soon, hopefully. I move tomorrow, and will be bringing my X environment and my audio environment into my dual P200 machine. This is against which kernel? 2.4.0-test10 prepatch, or? On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, James Simmons wrote: > > ANyone with a MDA card on a SMP or even UP

Re: [linux-fbdev] [PATCH] mdacon SMP fix

2000-10-16 Thread ferret
I will test this soon, hopefully. I move tomorrow, and will be bringing my X environment and my audio environment into my dual P200 machine. This is against which kernel? 2.4.0-test10 prepatch, or? On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, James Simmons wrote: ANyone with a MDA card on a SMP or even UP machione