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> luke.leighton,
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> This email concerns your recent ticket: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner
> SoC support upstrea
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luke.leighton,
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This email concerns your recent ticket: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner
SoC support
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 11:09:59PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
>> this is all a rather round-about way to say that for those people who
>> heard and are thinking of heeding russell's call to "be silent and to
>> ignore me"
>
>
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 11:09:59PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
> this is all a rather round-about way to say that for those people who
> heard and are thinking of heeding russell's call to "be silent and to
> ignore me"
Okay, so you've just misrepresented me in the above comment. I never
said
ok, so the deadline's almost up but the discussions of the past two or
so days have basically i think everything that needs to be said, and
i'm extremely grateful to everyone who's contributed, privately and
publicly, especially on such short notice. i've passed it over to my
associates who will
ok, so the deadline's almost up but the discussions of the past two or
so days have basically i think everything that needs to be said, and
i'm extremely grateful to everyone who's contributed, privately and
publicly, especially on such short notice. i've passed it over to my
associates who will
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 11:09:59PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
this is all a rather round-about way to say that for those people who
heard and are thinking of heeding russell's call to be silent and to
ignore me
Okay, so you've just misrepresented me in the above comment. I never
said
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
li...@arm.linux.org.uk wrote:
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 11:09:59PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
this is all a rather round-about way to say that for those people who
heard and are thinking of heeding russell's call to be silent and to
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> Now that the discussion went off from "you stupid kernel developers
*lol*. i get that summary ["you said people were stupid!!!"] a lot.
i don't quite understand where it comes from, otherwise i would stop
doing it :)
> adopted DeviceTree
Luke,
On Friday 07 of June 2013 22:29:34 luke.leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Thomas Petazzoni
>
> wrote:
> > Maxime will reply to this in more details, but I believe the status
is:
> > * Interrupt controller is working.
> > * Clock drivers are working.
> > * Pinctrl is
Luke,
On Friday 07 of June 2013 22:29:34 luke.leighton wrote:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Thomas Petazzoni
thomas.petazz...@free-electrons.com wrote:
Maxime will reply to this in more details, but I believe the status
is:
* Interrupt controller is working.
* Clock drivers are
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Tomasz Figa tomasz.f...@gmail.com wrote:
Now that the discussion went off from you stupid kernel developers
*lol*. i get that summary [you said people were stupid!!!] a lot.
i don't quite understand where it comes from, otherwise i would stop
doing it :)
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Dennis Lan (dlan)
wrote:
>
>
> On Saturday, June 8, 2013, luke.leighton wrote:
>>
>> right - too many people contributed to this, input from jon smirl,
>> wookie, maxime, tomasz, henrik, i've made a start here and will
>> continue editing: this is notes for me to
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Maxime Ripard
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 07:26:49PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
>> maxime: we need to talk :)
>>
>> please tell me in 4 or 5 sentences what you've managed to do so far,
>> expanding a little on what thomas says below, more specifically what
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 07:26:49PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
> maxime: we need to talk :)
>
> please tell me in 4 or 5 sentences what you've managed to do so far,
> expanding a little on what thomas says below, more specifically what
> it achieves and/or allows rather than technically what it
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:18:14PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> wrote:
>> > Luke Leighton on the other hand is demanding that we
>>
>> no demands have
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:02:03PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
>> well, tough. get me up to speed, *fast*.
>
> No, not unless you're willing to *pay* someone to spend time teaching you,
there's not enough time. 2 days left.
>
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Thomas Petazzoni
wrote:
> Maxime will reply to this in more details, but I believe the status is:
>
> * Interrupt controller is working.
> * Clock drivers are working.
> * Pinctrl is working.
> * GPIO is working.
> * Timer is working.
> * UART is working
>
right - too many people contributed to this, input from jon smirl,
wookie, maxime, tomasz, henrik, i've made a start here and will
continue editing: this is notes for me to put forward an agenda for
discussion:
http://hands.com/~lkcl/allwinner_linux_proposal.txt
i'm setting a rule that each
Confused yes - innocent mistake - 50% yes.
I see now the posts are cc'd from arm-netbook mailing lists to many
other mailing lists with different standards for noise.
Apologies for not seeing that.
arm-netbook list 'belongs' to luke, but generally the noise level
is very low here and its aim is
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:18:14PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> wrote:
> > Luke Leighton on the other hand is demanding that we
>
> no demands have been made, russell: i've informed you of an immovable
> deadline which
+++ Maxime Ripard [2013-06-06 19:28 +0200]:
> Hi everyone,
>
> On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:00:00AM -0700, Olof Johansson wrote:
> > Listen, Allwinner isn't working in a vacuum, believe it or not. I've
> > talked to them, so has Arnd and other people working on ARM, including
> > Maxime Ripard,
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:04:26PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Olof Johansson wrote:
> > By demanding
>
> a-a-ah, no demands made.
" well, tough. get me up to speed, *fast*. please stop wasting time
like this: get me up to speed."
That is a demand. Stop
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:02:03PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
> well, tough. get me up to speed, *fast*.
No, not unless you're willing to *pay* someone to spend time teaching you,
because you are asking to be *taught* about the current situation, so
you're asking someone to do some _work_
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:18:14PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> wrote:
> > Luke Leighton on the other hand is demanding that we
>
> no demands have been made, russell: i've informed you of an immovable
> deadline which
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
wrote:
> Luke Leighton on the other hand is demanding that we
no demands have been made, russell: i've informed you of an immovable
deadline which will pass beyond which the opportunity being presented
is lost.
> (Linux kernel
>
On Friday 07 of June 2013 20:02:03 luke.leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Tomasz Figa
wrote:
> >Seeing from your posts you don't have any knowledge on how Linux kernel
> >
> > development works
>
> check back to 2004.
$ git log --oneline --author="Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton"
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Thomas Petazzoni
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 19:26:49 +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
>
>> > Have you noticed that it is already the case in mainline?
>>
>> i knew there was a little bit, but not the extent of the commits.
>
> Then you could probably use a
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Wookey wrote:
> OK, this sounds good. Could you say who the allwinner engineers are?
[cross-over: i asked him if he'd be happy to let me know privately,
so i have at least some context when speaking to the Directors]
> I
> guess it's quite a large organisation,
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Olof Johansson wrote:
> Luke,
>
> I want only one thing from you at this time. See below.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM, luke.leighton
> wrote:
>> but the Directors of Allwinner aren't been kept in the loop,
>> here: that's my job, to get them
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>Seeing from your posts you don't have any knowledge on how Linux kernel
> development works
check back to 2004.
> and even on how Allwinner's cooperation with our
> community looks (and seem to be completely closed to our effort of showing
>
Hello,
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 19:26:49 +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
> > Have you noticed that it is already the case in mainline?
>
> i knew there was a little bit, but not the extent of the commits.
Then you could probably use a bit of your time to read the kernel
commit logs rather than writing
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thursday 06 June 2013, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>> So yes, Allwinner has an evil vendor tree (c), with a solution similar yet
>> inferior (because not generic enough) to the device tree, but they show
>> interest on going down the mainline
Luke,
I want only one thing from you at this time. See below.
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM, luke.leighton wrote:
> but the Directors of Allwinner aren't been kept in the loop,
> here: that's my job, to get them up-to-speed.
The one job I would love for you to do instead of all this
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Maxime Ripard
wrote:
> I should also add that Allwinner not only talked to us already,
oo! great! can you please [privately, not publicly] let me know who
that is, so i can let the Directors know, so that they can follow up?
> but also
> expressed interest in
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM, luke.leighton
>> wrote:
>>> augh. ok. solutions. what are the solutions here?
>>
>> Luke if you really want to fix this a good solution is to
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 02:49:28PM +, joem wrote:
> > > SoC vendors are free to join the discussion, and many SoC vendors are part
> > > of the kernel community, so calling this unilateral is plain wrong.
> >
> > you're free to believe that, vladimir. i've explained why that
> > hasn't
thomas i _very_ briefly spotted this when i was extremely busy
yesterday, and i'm grateful to the 2 or 3 people who've given me the
keywords and/or links to catch up.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Thomas Petazzoni
wrote:
> Dear Tomasz Figa,
>
> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 02:01:14 +0200, Tomasz Figa
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Alexandre Belloni
wrote:
> On 07/06/2013 10:06, luke.leighton wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Vladimir Pantelic wrote:
>>> luke.leighton wrote:
3 days remaining on the clock.
>>>
>>> what catastrophic thing will happen when the time runs out?
>>
On 06/07/2013 02:02 AM, luke.leighton wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> wrote:
>
>> If companies are going to go off and invent the square wheel, and that
>> makes *them* suffer the loss of being able to merge back into the
>> mainline kernel, thereby making
> > SoC vendors are free to join the discussion, and many SoC vendors are part
> > of the kernel community, so calling this unilateral is plain wrong.
>
> you're free to believe that, vladimir. i've explained why that
> hasn't happened, in prior messages. can we move forward, please?
I
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:52:43AM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
> coming back to what you said earlier: i'm formulating what to say to
> allwinner [and need to pre-send something by monday so that they can
> consider it before the meeting]. so far, it consists of:
>
> * device-tree is what the
Tomasz Figa
writes:
> Seeing from your posts you don't have any knowledge on how Linux kernel
> development works and even on how Allwinner's cooperation with our
> community looks (and seem to be completely closed to our effort of showing
> you the reality), so I'm not sure if you are the
fre 2013-06-07 klockan 09:02 +0100 skrev luke.leighton:
> ok. so. we come back to the question again: what shall i propose to
> them that they consider doing, and what benefit would it be to them to
> do so?
Just tell them that the kernel is moving to a different configuration
syntax called
2013/6/7 Olof Johansson :
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM, luke.leighton
>> wrote:
>>> augh. ok. solutions. what are the solutions here?
>>
>> Luke if you really want to fix this a good solution is to have
>> Allwinner join
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 09:48:22AM +0200, Vladimir Pantelic wrote:
> luke.leighton wrote:
>> 3 days remaining on the clock.
>
> what catastrophic thing will happen when the time runs out?
Maybe the world will explode into tiny small bits? Probably not. I
suspect nothing of any relevance to
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 10:40:37AM +0200, Vladimir Pantelic wrote:
> luke.leighton wrote:> so.
> >
> > coming back to what you said earlier: i'm formulating what to say to
> > allwinner [and need to pre-send something by monday so that they can
> > consider it before the meeting]. so far, it
On Friday 07 of June 2013 08:52:43 luke.leighton wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Tomasz Figa
wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:49:38 luke.leighton wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Tomasz Figa
> >
> > wrote:
> >> > Luke,
> >> >
> >> > On Thursday 06 of June 2013
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 09:02:43AM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
> ok. so. we come back to the question again: what shall i propose to
> them that they consider doing, and what benefit would it be to them to
> do so?
>
> i cannot go to them and say "you have to do this [insert proposal
> here]"
luke.leighton wrote:> so.
>
> coming back to what you said earlier: i'm formulating what to say to
> allwinner [and need to pre-send something by monday so that they can
> consider it before the meeting]. so far, it consists of:
>
> * device-tree is what the linux kernel community has come
On 07/06/2013 10:06, luke.leighton wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Vladimir Pantelic wrote:
>> luke.leighton wrote:
>>> 3 days remaining on the clock.
>>
>> what catastrophic thing will happen when the time runs out?
> no catastrophe, vladimir: all that happens is that an opportunity
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Vladimir Pantelic wrote:
> luke.leighton wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Vladimir Pantelic
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 4 days? WTF? since when did setting an ultimatum to the kernel
>>> community work?
>>
>>
>> i was only informed of the opportunity 2 days
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
wrote:
> If companies are going to go off and invent the square wheel, and that
> makes *them* suffer the loss of being able to merge back into the
> mainline kernel, thereby making *their* job of moving forward with
> their kernel
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:49:38 luke.leighton wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Tomasz Figa
> wrote:
>> > Luke,
>> >
>> > On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:24:57 luke.leighton wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Tomasz Figa
luke.leighton wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Vladimir Pantelic wrote:
4 days? WTF? since when did setting an ultimatum to the kernel
community work?
i was only informed of the opportunity 2 days ago, vladimir. this is
an important meeting. of course the linux kernel community is
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Vladimir Pantelic wrote:
> 4 days? WTF? since when did setting an ultimatum to the kernel
> community work?
i was only informed of the opportunity 2 days ago, vladimir. this is
an important meeting. of course the linux kernel community is
entirely free to:
*
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:52:43AM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
coming back to what you said earlier: i'm formulating what to say to
allwinner [and need to pre-send something by monday so that they can
consider it before the meeting]. so far, it consists of:
* device-tree is what the linux
SoC vendors are free to join the discussion, and many SoC vendors are part
of the kernel community, so calling this unilateral is plain wrong.
you're free to believe that, vladimir. i've explained why that
hasn't happened, in prior messages. can we move forward, please?
I prefer it if
On 06/07/2013 02:02 AM, luke.leighton wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
li...@arm.linux.org.uk wrote:
If companies are going to go off and invent the square wheel, and that
makes *them* suffer the loss of being able to merge back into the
mainline kernel,
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Alexandre Belloni
alexandre.bell...@free-electrons.com wrote:
On 07/06/2013 10:06, luke.leighton wrote:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Vladimir Pantelic vlado...@gmail.com wrote:
luke.leighton wrote:
3 days remaining on the clock.
what catastrophic thing
thomas i _very_ briefly spotted this when i was extremely busy
yesterday, and i'm grateful to the 2 or 3 people who've given me the
keywords and/or links to catch up.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Thomas Petazzoni
thomas.petazz...@free-electrons.com wrote:
Dear Tomasz Figa,
On Thu, 06 Jun
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 02:49:28PM +, joem wrote:
SoC vendors are free to join the discussion, and many SoC vendors are part
of the kernel community, so calling this unilateral is plain wrong.
you're free to believe that, vladimir. i've explained why that
hasn't happened, in
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Olof Johansson o...@lixom.net wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com jonsm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM, luke.leighton luke.leigh...@gmail.com
wrote:
augh. ok. solutions. what are the solutions here?
Luke if you
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Maxime Ripard
maxime.rip...@free-electrons.com wrote:
I should also add that Allwinner not only talked to us already,
oo! great! can you please [privately, not publicly] let me know who
that is, so i can let the Directors know, so that they can follow up?
Luke,
I want only one thing from you at this time. See below.
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM, luke.leighton luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote:
but the Directors of Allwinner aren't been kept in the loop,
here: that's my job, to get them up-to-speed.
The one job I would love for you to do
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Arnd Bergmann a...@arndb.de wrote:
On Thursday 06 June 2013, Maxime Ripard wrote:
So yes, Allwinner has an evil vendor tree (c), with a solution similar yet
inferior (because not generic enough) to the device tree, but they show
interest on going down the
Hello,
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 19:26:49 +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
Have you noticed that it is already the case in mainline?
i knew there was a little bit, but not the extent of the commits.
Then you could probably use a bit of your time to read the kernel
commit logs rather than writing
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Tomasz Figa tomasz.f...@gmail.com wrote:
Seeing from your posts you don't have any knowledge on how Linux kernel
development works
check back to 2004.
and even on how Allwinner's cooperation with our
community looks (and seem to be completely closed to our
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Olof Johansson o...@lixom.net wrote:
Luke,
I want only one thing from you at this time. See below.
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM, luke.leighton luke.leigh...@gmail.com
wrote:
but the Directors of Allwinner aren't been kept in the loop,
here: that's
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote:
OK, this sounds good. Could you say who the allwinner engineers are?
[cross-over: i asked him if he'd be happy to let me know privately,
so i have at least some context when speaking to the Directors]
I
guess it's quite a
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Thomas Petazzoni
thomas.petazz...@free-electrons.com wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 19:26:49 +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
Have you noticed that it is already the case in mainline?
i knew there was a little bit, but not the extent of the commits.
Then you
On Friday 07 of June 2013 20:02:03 luke.leighton wrote:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Tomasz Figa tomasz.f...@gmail.com
wrote:
Seeing from your posts you don't have any knowledge on how Linux kernel
development works
check back to 2004.
$ git log --oneline --author=Luke Kenneth
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
li...@arm.linux.org.uk wrote:
Luke Leighton on the other hand is demanding that we
no demands have been made, russell: i've informed you of an immovable
deadline which will pass beyond which the opportunity being presented
is lost.
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:18:14PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
li...@arm.linux.org.uk wrote:
Luke Leighton on the other hand is demanding that we
no demands have been made, russell: i've informed you of an immovable
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:02:03PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
well, tough. get me up to speed, *fast*.
No, not unless you're willing to *pay* someone to spend time teaching you,
because you are asking to be *taught* about the current situation, so
you're asking someone to do some _work_ _for_
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:04:26PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Olof Johansson o...@lixom.net wrote:
By demanding
a-a-ah, no demands made.
well, tough. get me up to speed, *fast*. please stop wasting time
like this: get me up to speed.
That is a demand.
+++ Maxime Ripard [2013-06-06 19:28 +0200]:
Hi everyone,
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:00:00AM -0700, Olof Johansson wrote:
Listen, Allwinner isn't working in a vacuum, believe it or not. I've
talked to them, so has Arnd and other people working on ARM, including
Maxime Ripard, who's been
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:18:14PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
li...@arm.linux.org.uk wrote:
Luke Leighton on the other hand is demanding that we
no demands have been made, russell: i've informed you of an immovable
Confused yes - innocent mistake - 50% yes.
I see now the posts are cc'd from arm-netbook mailing lists to many
other mailing lists with different standards for noise.
Apologies for not seeing that.
arm-netbook list 'belongs' to luke, but generally the noise level
is very low here and its aim is
right - too many people contributed to this, input from jon smirl,
wookie, maxime, tomasz, henrik, i've made a start here and will
continue editing: this is notes for me to put forward an agenda for
discussion:
http://hands.com/~lkcl/allwinner_linux_proposal.txt
i'm setting a rule that each
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Thomas Petazzoni
thomas.petazz...@free-electrons.com wrote:
Maxime will reply to this in more details, but I believe the status is:
* Interrupt controller is working.
* Clock drivers are working.
* Pinctrl is working.
* GPIO is working.
* Timer is
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
li...@arm.linux.org.uk wrote:
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:02:03PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
well, tough. get me up to speed, *fast*.
No, not unless you're willing to *pay* someone to spend time teaching you,
there's not enough time.
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
li...@arm.linux.org.uk wrote:
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 08:18:14PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
li...@arm.linux.org.uk wrote:
Luke Leighton on the other hand is
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 07:26:49PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
maxime: we need to talk :)
please tell me in 4 or 5 sentences what you've managed to do so far,
expanding a little on what thomas says below, more specifically what
it achieves and/or allows rather than technically what it does
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Maxime Ripard
maxime.rip...@free-electrons.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 07:26:49PM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
maxime: we need to talk :)
please tell me in 4 or 5 sentences what you've managed to do so far,
expanding a little on what thomas says below,
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Dennis Lan (dlan)
dennis.y...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 8, 2013, luke.leighton wrote:
right - too many people contributed to this, input from jon smirl,
wookie, maxime, tomasz, henrik, i've made a start here and will
continue editing: this is notes
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Vladimir Pantelic vlado...@gmail.com wrote:
4 days? WTF? since when did setting an ultimatum to the kernel
community work?
i was only informed of the opportunity 2 days ago, vladimir. this is
an important meeting. of course the linux kernel community is
luke.leighton wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Vladimir Pantelic vlado...@gmail.com wrote:
4 days? WTF? since when did setting an ultimatum to the kernel
community work?
i was only informed of the opportunity 2 days ago, vladimir. this is
an important meeting. of course the linux
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Tomasz Figa tomasz.f...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:49:38 luke.leighton wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Tomasz Figa tomasz.f...@gmail.com
wrote:
Luke,
On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:24:57 luke.leighton wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
li...@arm.linux.org.uk wrote:
If companies are going to go off and invent the square wheel, and that
makes *them* suffer the loss of being able to merge back into the
mainline kernel, thereby making *their* job of moving forward with
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Vladimir Pantelic vlado...@gmail.com wrote:
luke.leighton wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Vladimir Pantelic vlado...@gmail.com
wrote:
4 days? WTF? since when did setting an ultimatum to the kernel
community work?
i was only informed of the
On 07/06/2013 10:06, luke.leighton wrote:
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Vladimir Pantelic vlado...@gmail.com wrote:
luke.leighton wrote:
3 days remaining on the clock.
what catastrophic thing will happen when the time runs out?
no catastrophe, vladimir: all that happens is that an
luke.leighton wrote: so.
coming back to what you said earlier: i'm formulating what to say to
allwinner [and need to pre-send something by monday so that they can
consider it before the meeting]. so far, it consists of:
* device-tree is what the linux kernel community has come up with,
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 09:02:43AM +0100, luke.leighton wrote:
ok. so. we come back to the question again: what shall i propose to
them that they consider doing, and what benefit would it be to them to
do so?
i cannot go to them and say you have to do this [insert proposal
here] - it
On Friday 07 of June 2013 08:52:43 luke.leighton wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Tomasz Figa tomasz.f...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thursday 06 of June 2013 13:49:38 luke.leighton wrote:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Tomasz Figa tomasz.f...@gmail.com
wrote:
Luke,
On Thursday
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 10:40:37AM +0200, Vladimir Pantelic wrote:
luke.leighton wrote: so.
coming back to what you said earlier: i'm formulating what to say to
allwinner [and need to pre-send something by monday so that they can
consider it before the meeting]. so far, it consists
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 09:48:22AM +0200, Vladimir Pantelic wrote:
luke.leighton wrote:
3 days remaining on the clock.
what catastrophic thing will happen when the time runs out?
Maybe the world will explode into tiny small bits? Probably not. I
suspect nothing of any relevance to us.
As
2013/6/7 Olof Johansson o...@lixom.net:
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, jonsm...@gmail.com jonsm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM, luke.leighton luke.leigh...@gmail.com
wrote:
augh. ok. solutions. what are the solutions here?
Luke if you really want to fix this a good
fre 2013-06-07 klockan 09:02 +0100 skrev luke.leighton:
ok. so. we come back to the question again: what shall i propose to
them that they consider doing, and what benefit would it be to them to
do so?
Just tell them that the kernel is moving to a different configuration
syntax called
Tomasz Figa tomasz.f...@gmail.com
writes:
Seeing from your posts you don't have any knowledge on how Linux kernel
development works and even on how Allwinner's cooperation with our
community looks (and seem to be completely closed to our effort of showing
you the reality), so I'm not sure
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