Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-19 Thread Len Brown
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 20:35, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Dave Jones wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 05:23:15PM -0400, Len Brown wrote: > > > > > > p.p.s. patch improvements that will let me avoid doing any of that > > > > myself always welcome. :-) > > > > > > wel

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Dave Jones wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 05:23:15PM -0400, Len Brown wrote: > > > > p.p.s. patch improvements that will let me avoid doing any of that > > > myself always welcome. :-) > > > > well, I'm sorry that I've known about the APM issue for a long time > > and

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 05:23:15PM -0400, Len Brown wrote: > > p.p.s. patch improvements that will let me avoid doing any of that > > myself always welcome. :-) > > well, I'm sorry that I've known about the APM issue for a long time > and done nothing about it. I did ping davej when he bro

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Len Brown wrote: > On Wednesday 18 April 2007 16:23, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > ok, i get it now and -- correct me if i'm wrong -- all my legacy PM > > removal patch was doing was exposing a design boo-boo in which > > APM/ACPI contention was being handled by a macro in a su

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Len Brown
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 16:23, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Len Brown wrote: > > Here is how it should work. CONFIG_ACPI and CONFIG_APM should both > > available in a kernel build. However, at boot time, of ACPI is > > active, then APM should be disabled. > > > > The pm_active

Re: {Spam?} Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Len Brown wrote: > On Saturday 14 April 2007 09:01, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:20:10 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rot

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > >>One reason was that there are (were?) a number of machines which only > >>powered > >>down properly using apm. It was discussed as part of shutting down after > >>power > >>failure when your UPS is running out of power. > >> > > > >um ... what does APM have to do with legacy PM? two

Re: {Spam?} Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Len Brown
On Saturday 14 April 2007 09:01, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:20:10 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > > > > > > > One thing that comes to

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... > > um ... what does APM have to do with legacy PM? two different > > issues, no? > Since the patches are going into apm.c and apm was used for suspend > and poweroff before ACPI was a feature of the hardware, I assume > the

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote: Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [appropriate CCs added] On Friday, 13 April 2007 02:33, Robert P. J. Day wrote: just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents tossing the legacy PM stuff. at the

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-17 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > [appropriate CCs added] > > > > On Friday, 13 April 2007 02:33, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents > > > tossing the legacy PM stuff. at the moment, the menuco

Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-17 Thread David Brownell
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 3:12 pm, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > One reason was that there are (were?) a number of machines which only > powered down properly using apm. It was discussed as part of shutting > down after power failure when your UPS is running out of power. At least the notification m

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [appropriate CCs added] On Friday, 13 April 2007 02:33, Robert P. J. Day wrote: just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents tossing the legacy PM stuff. at the moment, the menuconfig entry for PM_LEGACY lists it as "DEPRECATED", while the help

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-15 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents > > tossing the legacy PM stuff. at the moment, the menuconfig entry for > > PM_LEGACY lists it as "DEPRECATED", while the help screen calls it > > "obsolete." that's a good sign that it's getting close to the time > >

{Spam?} Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-14 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:20:10 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > > > > > One thing that comes to mind is that you will need some way to > > > make sure that only one of

{Spam?} Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-14 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:20:10 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > > > > > One thing that comes to mind is that you will need some way to > > > make sure that only one of

Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-13 Thread David Brownell
On Friday 13 April 2007 1:22 am, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > [appropriate CCs added] > > On Friday, 13 April 2007 02:33, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents > > tossing the legacy PM stuff. at the moment, the menuconfig entry for >

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:20:10 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > > > > > One thing that comes to mind is that you will need some way to make sure > > > that only one of

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-13 Thread Stephen Rothwell
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:20:10 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > > > > One thing that comes to mind is that you will need some way to make sure > > that only one of ACPI and APM get initialized ... > > i don't see how that ha

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Stephen Rothwell wrote: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:33:16 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > just something i threw together, not in final form, but it > > represents tossing the legacy PM stuff. at the moment, the > > menuconfig entry for PM_LE

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-13 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
[appropriate CCs added] On Friday, 13 April 2007 02:33, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents > tossing the legacy PM stuff. at the moment, the menuconfig entry for > PM_LEGACY lists it as "DEPRECATED", while the help screen calls it >

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-13 Thread Stephen Rothwell
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:33:16 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents > tossing the legacy PM stuff. at the moment, the menuconfig entry for > PM_LEGACY lists it as "DEPRECATED", while the help screen calls

[PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-12 Thread Robert P. J. Day
just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents tossing the legacy PM stuff. at the moment, the menuconfig entry for PM_LEGACY lists it as "DEPRECATED", while the help screen calls it "obsolete." that's a good sign that it's getting close to the time for it to go, and the r