Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-08 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:=?iso-8859-1?Q?Pozs=E1r_Bal=E1zs?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > Granted, I could override the default order by using a /etc/filesystems > file. But the kernel should have a much more sane default on its own, > namely "try

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-07 Thread Clemens Schwaighofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- (BHash: SHA1 (B (BOn 02/08/2005 09:23 AM, Horst von Brand wrote: (B> Clemens Schwaighofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: (B> (B> [...] (B>>but to be honest, most times I need vfat, and I actually haven't (B>>encountered a time when I need msdos. (B> (B> But

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-07 Thread Horst von Brand
Clemens Schwaighofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > but to be honest, most times I need vfat, and I actually haven't > encountered a time when I need msdos. But writing MSDOS on a VFAT filesystem is a sure way to screw it up, and AFAIU vice-versa. -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-07 Thread Ingo Oeser
Michelle Konzack schrieb: > Am 2005-02-07 09:47:09, schrieb Pozsár Balázs: > > See? I _have_ that patch applied, that's why it tried vfat and not msdos > > first. > > With this, you will nerver mount a Filesystem "msdos". > > Because "vfat" IS "msdos" + "lfn". > > You can attach to ALL "msdos" medi

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-07 Thread Nuno Monteiro
On 2005.02.07 08:47, Pozsár Balázs wrote: On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 02:48:00AM +, Nuno Monteiro wrote: > But the contents of /proc/filesystems comes from the kernel. And the order of filesystems comes from the link order. Yes, but /proc/filesystems is only processed after two other checks have

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-07 Thread Clemens Schwaighofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07.02.2005 20:29, Andries Brouwer wrote: > Making a symlink /etc/filesystems -> /proc/filesystems is > meaningless. well to be honest, I didn't even know Gentoo makes a symlink here, but I'll definitly will make bug entry for that. Perhaps its a

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-02-07 09:47:09, schrieb Pozsár Balázs: > See? I _have_ that patch applied, that's why it tried vfat and not msdos > first. With this, you will nerver mount a Filesystem "msdos". Because "vfat" IS "msdos" + "lfn". You can attach to ALL "msdos" media "lfn" and you will have "vfat". > Gr

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-07 Thread Pozsár Balázs
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:29:14PM +0100, Andries Brouwer wrote: > and (ii) sometimes several types would succeed (e.g. msdos/vfat) > and the user can override the kernel order. But we are talking about the default order. > By the way, it is best to consider the kernel order as undefined. But i

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-07 Thread Andries Brouwer
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 03:53:00PM +0900, Clemens Schwaighofer wrote: > >>Yeah, but the link order could be changed... Patch inlined. > > > > And just what does the link order (or changes thereof) have to do with that? > > because some distributions (eg gentoo) make a symlink to /proc/filesystem

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-07 Thread Pozsár Balázs
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 02:48:00AM +, Nuno Monteiro wrote: > > On 2005.02.07 00:42, Pozsár Balázs wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:36:10AM +, Al Viro wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:21:08AM +0100, Pozsar Balazs wrote: > >> > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 07:06:59AM +, Christoph He

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-06 Thread Clemens Schwaighofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/07/2005 09:36 AM, Al Viro wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:21:08AM +0100, Pozsar Balazs wrote: > >>On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 07:06:59AM +, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >> >>>On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:33:43AM -0500, John Richard Moser wrote: >>

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-06 Thread Nuno Monteiro
On 2005.02.07 00:42, Pozsár Balázs wrote: On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:36:10AM +, Al Viro wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:21:08AM +0100, Pozsar Balazs wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 07:06:59AM +, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > filesystem detection isn't handled at the kerne level.

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-06 Thread Pozsár Balázs
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:36:10AM +, Al Viro wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:21:08AM +0100, Pozsar Balazs wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 07:06:59AM +, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:33:43AM -0500, John Richard Moser wrote: > > > > I dunno. I can never un

Re: [PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-06 Thread Al Viro
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:21:08AM +0100, Pozsar Balazs wrote: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 07:06:59AM +, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:33:43AM -0500, John Richard Moser wrote: > > > I dunno. I can never understand the innards of the kernel devs' minds. > > > > filesyst

[PATCH] Re: msdos/vfat defaults are annoying

2005-02-06 Thread Pozsar Balazs
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 07:06:59AM +, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:33:43AM -0500, John Richard Moser wrote: > > I dunno. I can never understand the innards of the kernel devs' minds. > > filesystem detection isn't handled at the kerne level. Yeah, but the link order