Re: [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2012-08-28 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:10:48AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > > This config item has not carried much meaning for a while now and is > > almost always enabled by default. Remove it and adjust various config > > logic and documentation. >

Re: [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2012-08-28 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > This config item has not carried much meaning for a while now and is > almost always enabled by default. Remove it and adjust various config > logic and documentation. It does have meaning... !CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL means more stable. In the past

Re: [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2012-08-28 Thread Rusty Russell
Kees Cook writes: > This config item has not carried much meaning for a while now and is > almost always enabled by default. Remove it and adjust various config > logic and documentation. Acked-by: Rusty Russell (lguest part) Cheers, Rusty. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsu

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-11 Thread Paul Mundt
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:18:45PM +, Ralf Baechle wrote: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 03:48:09PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Definately NAK for the MIPS segments. Some of the EXPERIMENTAL > dependencies should be removed but many options tagged with EXPERIMENTAL > are still dangerous. > Like

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-11 Thread Ralf Baechle
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 03:48:09PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: Definately NAK for the MIPS segments. Some of the EXPERIMENTAL dependencies should be removed but many options tagged with EXPERIMENTAL are still dangerous. Ralf -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kern

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:35:32PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > > So smbfs is still considered rock solid while no serious distribution > > would be crazy enough to ship the EXPERIMENTAL NFSv4 support to their > > customers? > > Thats a different problem. The kernel as I've said many times has no >

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Jon Smirl
On 1/1/08, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not claiming that all EXPERIMENTAL tags were wrong [1], but many > > were wrong. > > So why not fix the wrong tags, and mark smbfs obsolete ? > > > Plus the fact that CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL controlled so many different > > things with one switch t

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Jan 1 2008 14:30, Alan Cox wrote: >> * Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on >> > EXPERIMENTAL since they are pointless. >> >> agreed. CONFIG_BROKEN has real use - but CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is pretty >> pointless in t

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Alan Cox
> So smbfs is still considered rock solid while no serious distribution > would be crazy enough to ship the EXPERIMENTAL NFSv4 support to their > customers? Thats a different problem. The kernel as I've said many times has no proper process for - removing expired/missing maintainers - handling

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 04:07:08PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 17:17:51 +0200 > Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 02:23:44PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > > > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:48:09 +0200 > > > Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 17:17:51 +0200 Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 02:23:44PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:48:09 +0200 > > Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > > >

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 02:23:44PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:48:09 +0200 > Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > > EXPERIMENTAL since they are pointless. > > NAK > > Experimental is an important guid

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] As the alternative is > > CONFIG_ATA_EXPERIMENTAL, CONFIG_NET_EXPERIMENTAL, > CONFIG_VIDEO_EXPERIMENTAL, ... all being added by developers yeah, i'd prefer that. People might be willing to enable an experimental video driver but not an experimental

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 02:30:22PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:26:23 +0100 > Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > * Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > > > EXPERIMENTAL since they ar

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:26:23 +0100 Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > > EXPERIMENTAL since they are pointless. > > agreed. CONFIG_BROKEN has real use - but CONFIG_EXPERIME

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:48:09 +0200 Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > EXPERIMENTAL since they are pointless. NAK Experimental is an important guide to driver and code quality. "It might have been differently 10 years ago

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2008-01-01 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > EXPERIMENTAL since they are pointless. agreed. CONFIG_BROKEN has real use - but CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is pretty pointless in the 90-days kernel development model. Acked-by: Ingo Molna

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2007-11-28 Thread Krzysztof Halasa
Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > EXPERIMENTAL because they are pointless. Unfortunately I have to agree. The only think it does is confusing users, when they forget to enable it. -- Krzysztof Halasa - To unsubscribe f

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2007-11-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:34:11 EST, Dave Jones said: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:44:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I suspect that given the "once it escapes, it's cast in stone" view we take > > towards user-visible API/etc, there isn't much *real* room for an > > 'EXPERIMENTAL' fla

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2007-11-26 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:44:44PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I suspect that given the "once it escapes, it's cast in stone" view we take > towards user-visible API/etc, there isn't much *real* room for an > 'EXPERIMENTAL' flag anymore. Most of the usage should probably be confined >

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2007-11-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:27:07 GMT, Pavel Machek said: > I don't think this is good idea. But perhaps 'experimental' should be > removed from stuff that is really stable these days, like SATA? I suspect that given the "once it escapes, it's cast in stone" view we take towards user-visible API/etc,

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2007-11-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 12:27:07PM +, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Sun 2007-11-25 17:16:31, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > > EXPERIMENTAL because they are pointless. > > > > Complete rationale: > > - Many people and all distributions ar

Re: [2.6 patch] remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL

2007-11-26 Thread Pavel Machek
On Sun 2007-11-25 17:16:31, Adrian Bunk wrote: > This patch removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all dependencies on > EXPERIMENTAL because they are pointless. > > Complete rationale: > - Many people and all distributions are currently forced to enable > CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL since the options for