Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Jeremy Jackson
Alan Cox wrote: so what the hell is transmeta doing with mobile linux (midori). is it going to teach multi-user thing to tablet owners? Thats you problem. Distinguish the OS from the user interface. surely mortals expect midori to behave like their pc. lets say on redhat, they have to

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Jesse Pollard
Tomas Telensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Alexander Viro wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Tomas Telensky wrote: of linux distributions the standard daemons (httpd, sendmail) are run as root! Having multi-user system or not! Why? For only listening to a port 1024? Is there

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Pjotr Kourzanoff
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, CaT wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 04:49:57PM +0200, Pjotr Kourzanoff wrote: use port 2525 as SMTP port in your MTA. I've succeed to setup such a configuration. This requires you to ensure that your MTA is started first on that port...Might be difficult to

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Alan Cox
1. email - sendmail 2. sendmail figures out what it has to do with it. turns out it's deliver ... Now, in order for step 4 to be done safely, procmail should be running as the user it's meant to deliver the mail for. for this to happen sendmail needs to start it as that user in step 3 and

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Alex Riesen
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 04:53:10PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: 1. email - sendmail 2. sendmail figures out what it has to do with it. turns out it's deliver ... Now, in order for step 4 to be done safely, procmail should be running as the user it's meant to deliver the mail for. for this to

RE: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Torrey Hoffman
think about personal devices. something like the nokia communicator. a system security passwd is acceptable, but that's it. no those- device-user would like to know about user account, file ownership, etc. they just want to use it. If you are making a personal device, like an appliance,

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - 1. email - sendmail 2. sendmail figures out what it has to do with it. turns out it's deliver ... Now, in order for step 4 to be done safely, procmail should be running as the user it's meant to deliver the mail for. for this to

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Markus Schaber
Hello, On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Now, in order for step 4 to be done safely, procmail should be running as the user it's meant to deliver the mail for. for this to happen sendmail needs to start it as that user in step 3 and to do that it needs extra privs, above and beyond

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Russell King
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:44:17PM +0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: come on, it's hard for me as it's hard for you. not everybody expect a computer to be like people here thinks how a computer should be. I'm sorry, you're looking at the problem the wrong way around. Its not a kernel problem,

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread J Sloan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, a friend of my asked me on how to make linux easier to use for personal/casual win user. from that, i also found out that it is very awkward to type username and password every time i use my computer. so here's a patch. Neet hack, but maybe the kernel isn't

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Garett Spencley
that also explain why win95 user doesn't want to use NT. not because they can't afford it (belive me, here NT costs only us$2), but additional headache isn't acceptable. I'm going to speak from experience: My mother, who is the biggest windoze fan on the face of the universe, got fed up

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread David =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F3mez
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Tomas Telensky wrote: But, what I should say to the network security, is that AFAIK in the most of linux distributions the standard daemons (httpd, sendmail) are run as root! Having multi-user system or not! Why? For only listening to a port 1024? Is there any elegant

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Alan Cox
Quit being a naysayer. UNIX on a PDA is a wet dream. What real value does it have, apart from the geek look at me, I'm using bash value? It means I can do anything on my ipaq I can do anywhere else. I can run multiple apps at a time. I can run X11. I can run the palm emulator even ;) Its

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:07:48AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: What real value does it have, apart from the geek look at me, I'm using bash value? I don't really want to get into it at the moment, but imagine hacking netfilter without lugging a laptop around. PDA's are sleek and cool, and using

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Jonathan Lundell
At 5:01 PM -0700 2001-04-24, Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:38:01PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: And UNIX on a phone is pure overkill. Quit being a naysayer. UNIX on a PDA is a wet dream. http://www.agendacomputing.com/ (not that the reviews have been very kind) -- /Jonathan

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 05:20:27PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:07:48AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: What real value does it have, apart from the geek look at me, I'm using bash value? I don't really want to get into it at the moment, but imagine hacking netfilter

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 05:35:10PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:32:46AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: True, but then imagine trying to hack C (no, that's a CURLY BRACE, and a tab! not space! you just broke my makefiles! aargh!), and compiling Netfilter (it takes HOW

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Stuart Lynne
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quit being a naysayer. UNIX on a PDA is a wet dream. What real value does it have, apart from the geek look at me, I'm using bash value? It means I can do anything on my ipaq I can do anywhere else. I can run multiple apps at a

Re: [PATCH] Single user linux

2001-04-24 Thread Gerhard Mack
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Daniel Stone wrote: OK. time make bzImage. Of course, mine's really slow (and I will consider myself publically humiliated if my only Linux machine is beaten on a kernel compile by an iPAQ). I 'spose, if it only goes into suspend, the ability to write uptime on it

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