Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-20 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 12:52 AM Jan Kara wrote: > > On Sat 18-05-19 21:46:03, Dan Williams wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:25 PM Kees Cook wrote: > > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:28:48AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > > > It seems dax_iomap_actor() is not a path where we'd be worried about

Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-20 Thread Jan Kara
On Sat 18-05-19 21:46:03, Dan Williams wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:25 PM Kees Cook wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:28:48AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > > It seems dax_iomap_actor() is not a path where we'd be worried about > > > needing hardened user copy checks. > > > > I would ag

Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-19 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 12:25 PM Kees Cook wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:28:48AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > It seems dax_iomap_actor() is not a path where we'd be worried about > > needing hardened user copy checks. > > I would agree: I think the proposed patch makes sense. :) Sounds li

Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-17 Thread Kees Cook
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:28:48AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:57 AM Kees Cook wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 08:08:27AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > > As far as I can see it's mostly check_heap_object() that is the > > > problem, so I'm open to finding a way t

Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-17 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 8:57 AM Kees Cook wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 08:08:27AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > As far as I can see it's mostly check_heap_object() that is the > > problem, so I'm open to finding a way to just bypass that sub-routine. > > However, as far as I can see none of

Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-17 Thread Kees Cook
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 04:14:03PM +, David Laight wrote: > From: Kees Cook > > Sent: 17 May 2019 16:54 > ... > > > I've changed some of our code to use __get_user() to avoid > > > these stupid overheads. > > > > __get_user() skips even access_ok() checking too, so that doesn't seem > > like a

RE: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-17 Thread David Laight
From: Kees Cook > Sent: 17 May 2019 16:54 ... > > I've changed some of our code to use __get_user() to avoid > > these stupid overheads. > > __get_user() skips even access_ok() checking too, so that doesn't seem > like a good idea. Did you run access_ok() checks separately? (This > generally isn't

Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-17 Thread Kees Cook
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 08:08:27AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > As far as I can see it's mostly check_heap_object() that is the > problem, so I'm open to finding a way to just bypass that sub-routine. > However, as far as I can see none of the other block / filesystem user > copy implementations su

Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-17 Thread Kees Cook
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 09:06:26AM +, David Laight wrote: > From: Jan Kara > > Sent: 17 May 2019 09:48 > ... > > So this last paragraph is not obvious to me as check_copy_size() does a lot > > of various checks in CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY case. I agree that some of > > those checks don't make s

Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-17 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:47 AM Jan Kara wrote: > > Let's add Kees to CC for usercopy expertise... > > On Thu 16-05-19 17:33:38, Dan Williams wrote: > > Jeff discovered that performance improves from ~375K iops to ~519K iops > > on a simple psync-write fio workload when moving the location of 'str

RE: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-17 Thread David Laight
From: Jan Kara > Sent: 17 May 2019 09:48 ... > So this last paragraph is not obvious to me as check_copy_size() does a lot > of various checks in CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY case. I agree that some of > those checks don't make sense for PMEM pages but I'd rather handle that by > refining check_copy_si

Re: [PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-17 Thread Jan Kara
Let's add Kees to CC for usercopy expertise... On Thu 16-05-19 17:33:38, Dan Williams wrote: > Jeff discovered that performance improves from ~375K iops to ~519K iops > on a simple psync-write fio workload when moving the location of 'struct > page' from the default PMEM location to DRAM. This res

[PATCH] libnvdimm/pmem: Bypass CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY overhead

2019-05-16 Thread Dan Williams
Jeff discovered that performance improves from ~375K iops to ~519K iops on a simple psync-write fio workload when moving the location of 'struct page' from the default PMEM location to DRAM. This result is surprising because the expectation is that 'struct page' for dax is only needed for third par