On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 01:56:53PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:16 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Thoughts:
>> 1) I absolutely agree that NFS is far more prominent and useful than any
>> network block device, at the present time.
>>
>> 2) Nonetheless, swap over NFS is a
apologies for being insanely late into this thread
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 01:56:53PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:16 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
Thoughts:
1) I absolutely agree that NFS is far more prominent and useful than any
network block device, at the present
Hi!
> > 2) Nonetheless, swap over NFS is a pretty rare case. I view this work
> > as interesting, but I really don't see a huge need, for swapping over
> > NBD or swapping over NFS. I tend to think swapping to a remote resource
> > starts to approach "migration" rather than merely swapping.
Hi!
2) Nonetheless, swap over NFS is a pretty rare case. I view this work
as interesting, but I really don't see a huge need, for swapping over
NBD or swapping over NFS. I tend to think swapping to a remote resource
starts to approach migration rather than merely swapping. Yes, we
Hi.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:54:02AM -0400, Mike Snitzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> > Trouble with that part is that we don't have any sane network block
> > devices atm, NBD is utter crap, and iSCSI is too complex to be called
> > sane.
> >
> > Maybe Evgeniy's Distributed storage thingy
On 10/31/07, Peter Zijlstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:50 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:37:53PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > > Don't be misled. Swapping over NFS is just a scarecrow for the
> > > seemingly real impetus behind these
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 15:37, David Miller wrote:
From: Nick Piggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:26:32 +1100
Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> But please, people who want this (I'm sure some of you are reading) do
> speak up. I'm just the motivated corporate drone implementing the
> feature :-)
FWIW, I could have used a "swap to network technology X" like system at
my last job. We were building a large
Em Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 01:56:53PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra escreveu:
> On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:16 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > Thoughts:
> >
> > 1) I absolutely agree that NFS is far more prominent and useful than any
> > network block device, at the present time.
> >
> >
> > 2) Nonetheless,
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:16 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Thoughts:
>
> 1) I absolutely agree that NFS is far more prominent and useful than any
> network block device, at the present time.
>
>
> 2) Nonetheless, swap over NFS is a pretty rare case. I view this work
> as interesting, but I
Thoughts:
1) I absolutely agree that NFS is far more prominent and useful than any
network block device, at the present time.
2) Nonetheless, swap over NFS is a pretty rare case. I view this work
as interesting, but I really don't see a huge need, for swapping over
NBD or swapping over
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 14:26 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 03:04, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Another posting of the full swap over NFS series.
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
> over NFS files work, given that you could
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 12:18 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > So please get the VM bits for swap over network blockdevices in first,
> >
> > Trouble with that part is that we don't have any sane network block
> > devices atm, NBD is utter crap, and iSCSI is too complex to be called
> >
Hi!
> > So please get the VM bits for swap over network blockdevices in first,
>
> Trouble with that part is that we don't have any sane network block
> devices atm, NBD is utter crap, and iSCSI is too complex to be called
> sane.
Hey, NBD was designed to be _simple_. And I think it works okay
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:50 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:37:53PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > Don't be misled. Swapping over NFS is just a scarecrow for the
> > seemingly real impetus behind these changes which is network storage
> > stuff like iSCSI.
>
> So can
On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 21:37 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Nick Piggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:26:32 +1100
>
> > Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
> > over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
> > device instead?
>
> Don't
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:37:53PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> Don't be misled. Swapping over NFS is just a scarecrow for the
> seemingly real impetus behind these changes which is network storage
> stuff like iSCSI.
So can we please do swap over network storage only first? All these
VM bits
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:37:53PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
Don't be misled. Swapping over NFS is just a scarecrow for the
seemingly real impetus behind these changes which is network storage
stuff like iSCSI.
So can we please do swap over network storage only first? All these
VM bits look
On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 21:37 -0700, David Miller wrote:
From: Nick Piggin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:26:32 +1100
Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
device instead?
Don't be misled.
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:50 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:37:53PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
Don't be misled. Swapping over NFS is just a scarecrow for the
seemingly real impetus behind these changes which is network storage
stuff like iSCSI.
So can we
Hi!
So please get the VM bits for swap over network blockdevices in first,
Trouble with that part is that we don't have any sane network block
devices atm, NBD is utter crap, and iSCSI is too complex to be called
sane.
Hey, NBD was designed to be _simple_. And I think it works okay in
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 12:18 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
So please get the VM bits for swap over network blockdevices in first,
Trouble with that part is that we don't have any sane network block
devices atm, NBD is utter crap, and iSCSI is too complex to be called
sane.
Hey,
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 14:26 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 03:04, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
Hi,
Another posting of the full swap over NFS series.
Hi,
Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
over NFS files work, given that you could use a network
Thoughts:
1) I absolutely agree that NFS is far more prominent and useful than any
network block device, at the present time.
2) Nonetheless, swap over NFS is a pretty rare case. I view this work
as interesting, but I really don't see a huge need, for swapping over
NBD or swapping over
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:16 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
Thoughts:
1) I absolutely agree that NFS is far more prominent and useful than any
network block device, at the present time.
2) Nonetheless, swap over NFS is a pretty rare case. I view this work
as interesting, but I really don't
Em Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 01:56:53PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra escreveu:
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:16 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
Thoughts:
1) I absolutely agree that NFS is far more prominent and useful than any
network block device, at the present time.
2) Nonetheless, swap over NFS is
Peter Zijlstra wrote:
But please, people who want this (I'm sure some of you are reading) do
speak up. I'm just the motivated corporate drone implementing the
feature :-)
FWIW, I could have used a swap to network technology X like system at
my last job. We were building a large networking
On 10/31/07, Peter Zijlstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 08:50 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:37:53PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
Don't be misled. Swapping over NFS is just a scarecrow for the
seemingly real impetus behind these changes which
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 15:37, David Miller wrote:
From: Nick Piggin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:26:32 +1100
Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
Hi.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:54:02AM -0400, Mike Snitzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Trouble with that part is that we don't have any sane network block
devices atm, NBD is utter crap, and iSCSI is too complex to be called
sane.
Maybe Evgeniy's Distributed storage thingy would work,
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 15:37, David Miller wrote:
> From: Nick Piggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:26:32 +1100
>
> > Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
> > over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
> > device instead?
>
> Don't
From: Nick Piggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:26:32 +1100
> Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
> over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
> device instead?
Don't be misled. Swapping over NFS is just a scarecrow for the
seemingly
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 03:04, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Another posting of the full swap over NFS series.
Hi,
Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
device instead?
Also, have you ensured that
Hi,
Another posting of the full swap over NFS series.
[ I tried just posting the first part last time around, but
that just gets more confusion by lack of a general picture ]
[ patches against 2.6.23-mm1, also to be found online at:
Hi,
Another posting of the full swap over NFS series.
[ I tried just posting the first part last time around, but
that just gets more confusion by lack of a general picture ]
[ patches against 2.6.23-mm1, also to be found online at:
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 03:04, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
Hi,
Another posting of the full swap over NFS series.
Hi,
Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
device instead?
Also, have you ensured that
From: Nick Piggin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:26:32 +1100
Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
device instead?
Don't be misled. Swapping over NFS is just a scarecrow for the
seemingly real
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 15:37, David Miller wrote:
From: Nick Piggin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:26:32 +1100
Is it really worth all the added complexity of making swap
over NFS files work, given that you could use a network block
device instead?
Don't be misled.
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