Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-13 Thread Scott Lurndal
> Looking back at the KDB sources originally posted on oss.sgi.com I > did not see any restrictions on the use of KDB. How/why was that > restriction granted and by whom? Was SGI, the original copyright > owner of KDB, asked or even informed of that decision? I'm not > trying to be a lawyer

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-13 Thread Scott Lurndal
Looking back at the KDB sources originally posted on oss.sgi.com I did not see any restrictions on the use of KDB. How/why was that restriction granted and by whom? Was SGI, the original copyright owner of KDB, asked or even informed of that decision? I'm not trying to be a lawyer here,

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
On 3/12/2013 3:39 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Mike Travis writes: > >> Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying >> an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant >> piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering the interests >> of Linux and

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Mike Travis writes: > Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying > an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant > piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering the interests > of Linux and the community how? By ignoring interests of someone who

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
On 3/12/2013 3:13 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 03:03:17PM -0700, Mike Travis wrote: Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 03:03:17PM -0700, Mike Travis wrote: > Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying > an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant > piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering the interests > of Linux and the community how?

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
On 3/12/2013 3:01 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Mike Travis wrote: This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally usable by loadable KDB modules. Note that often drivers bring in KDB modules for debugging, and in the past KDB has not been limited to use by

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering the interests of Linux and the community how? Looking back at the KDB sources originally posted on oss.sgi.com I

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Thomas Gleixner
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Mike Travis wrote: > This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally > usable by loadable KDB modules. Note that often drivers bring > in KDB modules for debugging, and in the past KDB has not been > limited to use by GPL only modules. This patch restores KDB >

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 02:38:28PM -0500, Mike Travis wrote: > This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally > usable by loadable KDB modules. What modules would that be? Are they in this patch series? > Note that often drivers bring in KDB modules for debugging, and in the >

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Mike Travis writes: > This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally > usable by loadable KDB modules. Note that often drivers bring > in KDB modules for debugging, and in the past KDB has not been > limited to use by GPL only modules. This patch restores KDB > usefullness to

[PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally usable by loadable KDB modules. Note that often drivers bring in KDB modules for debugging, and in the past KDB has not been limited to use by GPL only modules. This patch restores KDB usefullness to non-GPL modules. Cc: Tim Bird

[PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally usable by loadable KDB modules. Note that often drivers bring in KDB modules for debugging, and in the past KDB has not been limited to use by GPL only modules. This patch restores KDB usefullness to non-GPL modules. Cc: Tim Bird

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Mike Travis tra...@sgi.com writes: This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally usable by loadable KDB modules. Note that often drivers bring in KDB modules for debugging, and in the past KDB has not been limited to use by GPL only modules. This patch restores KDB

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 02:38:28PM -0500, Mike Travis wrote: This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally usable by loadable KDB modules. What modules would that be? Are they in this patch series? Note that often drivers bring in KDB modules for debugging, and in the past

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Thomas Gleixner
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Mike Travis wrote: This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally usable by loadable KDB modules. Note that often drivers bring in KDB modules for debugging, and in the past KDB has not been limited to use by GPL only modules. This patch restores KDB

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering the interests of Linux and the community how? Looking back at the KDB sources originally posted on oss.sgi.com I

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
On 3/12/2013 3:01 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Mike Travis wrote: This patch adds some important KDB functions to be externally usable by loadable KDB modules. Note that often drivers bring in KDB modules for debugging, and in the past KDB has not been limited to use by

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 03:03:17PM -0700, Mike Travis wrote: Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering the interests of Linux and the community how?

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
On 3/12/2013 3:13 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 03:03:17PM -0700, Mike Travis wrote: Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Mike Travis tra...@sgi.com writes: Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering the interests of Linux and the community how? By ignoring interests of

Re: [PATCH 05/14] KDB: add more exports for supporting KDB modules

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Travis
On 3/12/2013 3:39 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote: Mike Travis tra...@sgi.com writes: Let me see if I can understand the concept better. By denying an external hardware vendor the use of KDB to support a significant piece of proprietary hardware on Linux, I furthering the interests of Linux