Re: [PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org

2021-01-14 Thread Konstantin Ryabitsev
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 01:17:10PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: > >> Well, that said, a lot of stuff sent to the _proper_ mailing lists also > >> never > >> receives a response > > > > Good point. > > There's a school of thought that this is actually a feature. If there's > no attention, the

Re: [PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org

2021-01-13 Thread Jani Nikula
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Thx for your reply and sorry for forgetting to CC you; that was the > plan, but I forgot when I called git send-email :-/ > > Am 11.01.21 um 20:48 wrote Konstantin Ryabitsev: >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 01:10:33PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>

Re: [PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org

2021-01-12 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Thx for your reply and sorry for forgetting to CC you; that was the plan, but I forgot when I called git send-email :-/ Am 11.01.21 um 20:48 wrote Konstantin Ryabitsev: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 01:10:33PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> The front page doesn't make this aspect obvious and not

Re: [PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org

2021-01-12 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Am 12.01.21 um 00:42 schrieb Randy Dunlap: > On 1/11/21 10:55 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> Am 11.01.21 um 19:14 schrieb Randy Dunlap: >>> On 1/10/21 4:10 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >>> Andrew Morton takes MM bugs and Cc:s them to linux-mm mailing list >>> and then asks for discussion to

Re: [PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org

2021-01-11 Thread Randy Dunlap
On 1/11/21 10:55 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Am 11.01.21 um 19:14 schrieb Randy Dunlap: >> On 1/10/21 4:10 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>> * About 66 of those ~200 components will assign bugs to email addresses >>> that look valid, but 125 of them end with @kernel-bugs.osdl.org or >>>

Re: [PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org

2021-01-11 Thread Konstantin Ryabitsev
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 01:10:33PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > The front page doesn't make this aspect obvious and not even point to > Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst to help those that want to > properly report a bug. Only the FAQ mentions it, albeit only indirectly: > 'The

Re: [PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org

2021-01-11 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Am 11.01.21 um 19:14 schrieb Randy Dunlap: > On 1/10/21 4:10 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> * About 66 of those ~200 components will assign bugs to email addresses >> that look valid, but 125 of them end with @kernel-bugs.osdl.org or >> @kernel-bugs.kernel.org. Those domains do not exist

Re: [PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org

2021-01-11 Thread Randy Dunlap
On 1/10/21 4:10 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > * About 66 of those ~200 components will assign bugs to email addresses > that look valid, but 125 of them end with @kernel-bugs.osdl.org or > @kernel-bugs.kernel.org. Those domains do not exist anymore, mails > sent there bounce ('Unrouteable

[PATCH v1 (RFC)] docs: discourage users from using bugzilla.kernel.org

2021-01-10 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
The bugtracker on kernel.org is not working very well and might be a disservice to the community, as discussed on the maintainers summit 2017 and explained below in detail. For most of the kernel it was never the preferred place to report issues anyway, as the MAINTAINERS file and the recently