Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: > Let's add the LKML to this. > > On 9/13/07, Markus Rechberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/12/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't see any technical reason why tuner drivers should be moved to > > > userspace.

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: Let's add the LKML to this. On 9/13/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any technical reason why tuner drivers should be moved to userspace. Looking at

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Markus Rechberger
Hi, On 9/13/07, Johannes Stezenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: We currently have an implementation that works, although it works by downloading several firmwares for several devices or even several countries. This is not what I want to have in

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: We currently have an implementation that works, although it works by downloading several firmwares for several devices or even several countries. This is not what I want to have in future since it's not needed and it's also hard to manage for

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 9/13/07, Johannes Stezenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: Let's add the LKML to this. On 9/13/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any technical reason

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Manu Abraham
It's only a step in development, I do not intend to keep the kernel stub in the end, but I do intend to keep and use the userspace drivers with i2c-dev in the long run, this requires a v4l/dvb library at the front of everything. Well, this was what adq and myself did with libdvbapi and mti,

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 9/13/07, Manu Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's only a step in development, I do not intend to keep the kernel stub in the end, but I do intend to keep and use the userspace drivers with i2c-dev in the long run, this requires a v4l/dvb library at the front of everything. Well,

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Manu Abraham
Markus Rechberger wrote: On 9/13/07, Manu Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's only a step in development, I do not intend to keep the kernel stub in the end, but I do intend to keep and use the userspace drivers with i2c-dev in the long run, this requires a v4l/dvb library at the front of

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 9/13/07, Manu Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 9/13/07, Manu Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's only a step in development, I do not intend to keep the kernel stub in the end, but I do intend to keep and use the userspace drivers with i2c-dev in the long

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Manu Abraham
Markus Rechberger wrote: On 9/13/07, Manu Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 9/13/07, Manu Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's only a step in development, I do not intend to keep the kernel stub in the end, but I do intend to keep and use the userspace drivers

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Steven Toth
Also there is to consider a non technical aspect, whether vendors will misuse this interface for binary only, undermining the efforts put in for OSS drivers. What holds companies for using the current available code putting it into an rpm or deb package and releasing such code now?

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 9/13/07, Steven Toth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also there is to consider a non technical aspect, whether vendors will misuse this interface for binary only, undermining the efforts put in for OSS drivers. What holds companies for using the current available code putting it

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread hermann pitton
Am Donnerstag, den 13.09.2007, 16:36 -0400 schrieb Steven Toth: Also there is to consider a non technical aspect, whether vendors will misuse this interface for binary only, undermining the efforts put in for OSS drivers. What holds companies for using the current available

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-13 Thread Steven Toth
Markus Rechberger wrote: On 9/13/07, Steven Toth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also there is to consider a non technical aspect, whether vendors will misuse this interface for binary only, undermining the efforts put in for OSS drivers. What holds companies for using the current

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-12 Thread Dâniel Fraga
Well, I'd like to see Linus' opinion about this, because while programmers keep discussing this, users are waiting forever... so if Markus has a concrete and better solution, why don't use it? And as far as I know, Markus is the programmer who is most interested in this code. I

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-12 Thread Markus Rechberger
Let's add the LKML to this. On 9/13/07, Markus Rechberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/12/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Markus, > > > > Em Ter, 2007-08-14 às 16:31 +0200, Markus Rechberger escreveu: > > > Following patch adds the possibility to implement tuner

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-12 Thread Markus Rechberger
Let's add the LKML to this. On 9/13/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus, Em Ter, 2007-08-14 às 16:31 +0200, Markus Rechberger escreveu: Following patch adds the possibility to implement tuner drivers in

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-09-12 Thread Dâniel Fraga
Well, I'd like to see Linus' opinion about this, because while programmers keep discussing this, users are waiting forever... so if Markus has a concrete and better solution, why don't use it? And as far as I know, Markus is the programmer who is most interested in this code. I

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